More latter day saint squid tactics

[nerjdriver]

No, I get your point. It just doesn't offend me the way it does you.





So if you land an aircraft on a taxiway instead of a runway, will an ASAP sweep that under the rug? Or how about if you takeoff well below minto because you forgot to fuel?





I don't make up the rules, I just point them out. You want to get technical only when it helps prove your point.





See, maybe its you that doesn't get my point. As Homer pointed out, I don't believe you would categorize any of the cities we fly to internationally as technical. But while we are on the subject, why is XJT slowly losing all their Mexico routes to SKW?

Because united wants 70 seaters stupid. It has nothing to do with your superior dispatch "skills" you learned in trade school.

 

[IBNAV8R]

Let's see. It's not about leg lengths, destinations, ASMs, flights per day, fleet size or revenue. It really boils down to the size of equipment. Because it is much more respectable to fly an A320 or B747 for $80k/yr than a Barbie jet for $100K. It is also admirable to commute cross-country to reserve for the foreseeable future than to enjoy weekends and holiday with family and friends.

When you don't have a credible argument, just discredit the poster based on position rather than content.

 

[homerjdispatch]

Because united wants 70 seaters stupid. It has nothing to do with your superior dispatch "skills" you learned in trade school.

So why is OO flying 50 seaters to Mexico for United?

 

[Nevets]

I'll put it in terms that even PBRStreetgang would understand. I'll help you get the poop from point A to point B, but it's still you who is driving the poop.

Again, point being that it was YOU who is trying to insult the profession which you are the bitch. But I guess somehow that makes you feel better about yourself.

Got it, we should be making even more mistakes than we do now to catch up with the rest of the industry. Noted, and I will run it up the ladder to see what we can do.

No, not surprisingly, you don't get it. The point being that your assertion that Skywest has had no dispatcher certificate action doesn't make you better. But I guess somehow that makes you feel better about yourself.

Your airline's name has to be the one with the biggest lettering on the side of the aircraft? So what is the definiton of a regional? Does it entail flying routes like LAX/SFO? ORD/ATL? DEN/IAH? Here's some good regional routes for you...PHX/DSM, DEN/YMM, SLC/MSY, IAH/BFL, SFO/AUS, ORD/MSO, IAD/COS, LAX/TUL, MSP/PSC

Nope, I'm not talking about the DOT's definition of a regional. I said that! Another hint, go any of read skywest's 10k report. Ad no, it doesn't have anything to do with flying PHX/DSM, DEN/YMM, SLC/MSY, IAH/BFL, SFO/AUS, ORD/MSO, IAD/COS, LAX/TUL, MSP/PSC. But I guess somehow that makes you feel better about yourself.

My point is this...are Southwest dispatchers worried about having to dispatch a flight into/out of places like ASE, BTM, MMH, EGE, SUN? How about their pilots? No and no. Are Southwest dispatchers and pilots worried about flying into/out of international destinations? No and no. But you are going to somehow try to tell me that they are better than us because they dispatch/fly a bigger plane for more money?

And what does that have to do with the price of tea in china? Never said they are better than you are. And I never mentioned anything about bigger aircraft or more money. It's you guys that keep throwing out the koolaid of the week to try to show you are better than us. It was you, in this thread alone, that brings up things like:

Glorified bus driver
aircraft swaps
Major airline status
No dispatcher certificate action
technical airports
XJT Mexico flights going to SKW
operating other regional's old aircraft
A list of long flights

But I guess somehow that makes you feel better about yourself.

Are you sure about that, because all you ever do is bitch about your job. I'm pretty sure that makes you the bigger ******************************.

There is a difference between bitching about my job and bitching about management. My job is pretty easy (thanks in part for dispatchers), despite management's incompetence.

Then you completely contradict yourself. You almost had me there for a second.

I think you are confusing me with someone else. But if I did say such things, point them out and I'll apologize for it.

I kinda caught the dumb from reading your drivel, but I believe he is trying to say that SkyWest is obviously doing something right when they have aircraft in their fleet with the tail numbers: YV, AS, CA, BR, PQ, AG, QX. Name me some regionals flying around with aircraft that have tail numbers that end in SW or SK.

I asked what other koolaid they were drowning you guys in. And he answered about operating other regional's old aircraft. So logically, the conclusion is that operating other regional's old aircraft is koolaid they are drowning you guys on. Thanks, that's a new one I hadn't heard before.



Do you see the theme here? It's all about you Skywest guys trying to make yourselves feel better! Why is that?

When you don't have a credible argument, just discredit the poster based on position rather than content.

I try not to use ad hominem arguments. I rather stay on topic. But you can go ahead and make personal attacks if you want.

 

[XPOO]

Dearest Nevets,

I'm pretty sure if we go all the way back to post #1 in this thread we will both see that I was called out personally. Normally, I could care less about XJT extending some aircraft contracts until SKW can get some E-175s online to replace them. But since the original poster couldn't see the writing on the wall for himself, I thought I would point out the obvious. From there, no one wanted to try and argue the facts, or "stay on topic," and instead it just turned into personal attacks and insults. Mormons (the thread headline is pretty blatant, unless you'd like to argue that), St. George, failed pilot...the works. You call me a failed pilot, I call you a glorified bus driver. Both are incorrect, so big deal. I'm over it, you should be, too. However, every time I throw you a fact, you want to discredit it. You'd make a great polician. Hillary Clinton should be honored to have you as her campaign manager for 2016. I don't need to feel better than you. This group of "failed pilots," 'high school drop-outs,' and Kool-Aid-drinkers are the best in the industry at what they do. I'll defend each and everyone of them. Furthermore, if drinking the Kool-Aid continues to put us at the forefront of the industry then serve me up another glass. Unless you're the lead dog, the view never changes. Enjoy your view.

 

[BHopper88]

Dearest Nevets,

I'm pretty sure if we go all the way back to post #1 in this thread we will both see that I was called out personally. Normally, I could care less about XJT extending some aircraft contracts until SKW can get some E-175s online to replace them. But since the original poster couldn't see the writing on the wall for himself, I thought I would point out the obvious. From there, no one wanted to try and argue the facts, or "stay on topic," and instead it just turned into personal attacks and insults. Mormons (the thread headline is pretty blatant, unless you'd like to argue that), St. George, failed pilot...the works. You call me a failed pilot, I call you a glorified bus driver. Both are incorrect, so big deal. I'm over it, you should be, too. However, every time I throw you a fact, you want to discredit it. You'd make a great polician. Hillary Clinton should be honored to have you as her campaign manager for 2016. I don't need to feel better than you. This group of "failed pilots," 'high school drop-outs,' and Kool-Aid-drinkers are the best in the industry at what they do. I'll defend each and everyone of them. Furthermore, if drinking the Kool-Aid continues to put us at the forefront of the industry then serve me up another glass. Unless you're the lead dog, the view never changes. Enjoy your view.

XPOO,
As much as I love to go against whatever Nevets says about us at skywest, you are making SkyWest (dispatchers)and your self look bad. Seriously....
I work at OO and what you say sometimes just makes me cringe. We do fly into some challenging places like ASE but so does Eagle now. Are you saying you and the rest of dispatchers are better than Eagle Dispatchers? Have you ever taken a tour of SWA dispatch because I am willing to bet its on a level of technology and communication that is way beyond whats at HDQ in SGU. Are you saying us at Skywest flying up front are better than Eagle or any other regionals pilots? Because for the 99.9% of us who put on our uniforms and fly we are all equal. We just wear different company wings. You dont really hear DL dispatchers are saying they are better than UA dispatchers or UA pilots because they fly the this route or that aircraft.

Both you and I agree Skywest mgmt is savvy and has great business smarts in this crazy industry, but that doesnt mean we cant be the next comair down the road with some little mistake. How is our medical insurance been the last 5 years? What about the performance awards, they sure have been paying A LOT less than they were paying for 5 years ago FOR THE SAME NUMBERS (LOOK IT UP).

I am glad you have pride in Skywest, a lot of us do, but to say what you have that "WE" are better than express jet, etc is just wrong... If you want to say something like "our mgmt is better than x mgmt" fine, many could say you were right, but dont compare pilot groups when you have ZERO experience flying the line and flying with those fellow pilots in the jumpseat.

And NEVETS, stop saying that we at skywest have a lessor ASAP program. We have the EXACT SAME PROTECTION from the FAA as you do at XJT. We have gone over this over and over and over and you continue to go against what we have shown you as proof.
But you are right XPOO's comments about we are better than you is way off...

 

[XPOO]

XPOO,
As much as I love to go against whatever Nevets says about us at skywest, you are making SkyWest (dispatchers)and your self look bad. Seriously....
I work at OO and what you say sometimes just makes me cringe. We do fly into some challenging places like ASE but so does Eagle now. Are you saying you and the rest of dispatchers are better than Eagle Dispatchers? Have you ever taken a tour of SWA dispatch because I am willing to bet its on a level of technology and communication that is way beyond whats at HDQ in SGU. Are you saying us at Skywest flying up front are better than Eagle or any other regionals pilots? Because for the 99.9% of us who put on our uniforms and fly we are all equal. We just wear different company wings. You dont really hear DL dispatchers are saying they are better than UA dispatchers or UA pilots because they fly the this route or that aircraft.

And you are only seeing and reading what you want to as well. Not once in this thread have I ever said "we are better than you." Never once did I say that "we are better than Southwest." All I said, and I will say it for the umpteenth time in this thread, "we are damn good at what we do." So maybe a few people in here didn't cut it as a pilot (color blindness, furloughs from 9-11, medical conditions) and maybe some of us dont have a degree (would you really respect your dispatcher more because they have a degree in French Literature or Hotel Management?) I'm not comparing. I'm not calling anyone out (like badogg did to start this thread off). Cringe all you want, but cringe at what is actually being said and not what you wanted to read.

 

[nerjdriver]

Dearest Nevets,

I'm pretty sure if we go all the way back to post #1 in this thread we will both see that I was called out personally. Normally, I could care less about XJT extending some aircraft contracts until SKW can get some E-175s online to replace them. But since the original poster couldn't see the writing on the wall for himself, I thought I would point out the obvious. From there, no one wanted to try and argue the facts, or "stay on topic," and instead it just turned into personal attacks and insults. Mormons (the thread headline is pretty blatant, unless you'd like to argue that), St. George, failed pilot...the works. You call me a failed pilot, I call you a glorified bus driver. Both are incorrect, so big deal. I'm over it, you should be, too. However, every time I throw you a fact, you want to discredit it. You'd make a great polician. Hillary Clinton should be honored to have you as her campaign manager for 2016. I don't need to feel better than you. This group of "failed pilots," 'high school drop-outs,' and Kool-Aid-drinkers are the best in the industry at what they do. I'll defend each and everyone of them. Furthermore, if drinking the Kool-Aid continues to put us at the forefront of the industry then serve me up another glass. Unless you're the lead dog, the view never changes. Enjoy your view.

Wow, just wow. I feel honored to be on the same forum as you XPOO

 

[homerjdispatch]

Wow, just wow. I feel honored to be on the same forum as you XPOO

The plaque for alternates is down in the ladies room...

 

[Freebrd]

told yall dsp are useless, we don't need 'em, look at all the free time they have to post on a PILOTS board, think there is a dsp section on FI, go there you worthless dsp'rs :beer::smash:

 

[nerjdriver]

So why is OO flying 50 seaters to Mexico for United?

Well i didnt know that! IT MUST be because of the superior dispatch at SKYW.

 

[Nevets]

Dearest Nevets,

I'm pretty sure if we go all the way back to post #1 in this thread we will both see that I was called out personally. Normally, I could care less about XJT extending some aircraft contracts until SKW can get some E-175s online to replace them. But since the original poster couldn't see the writing on the wall for himself, I thought I would point out the obvious. From there, no one wanted to try and argue the facts, or "stay on topic," and instead it just turned into personal attacks and insults. Mormons (the thread headline is pretty blatant, unless you'd like to argue that), St. George, failed pilot...the works. You call me a failed pilot, I call you a glorified bus driver. Both are incorrect, so big deal. I'm over it, you should be, too. However, every time I throw you a fact, you want to discredit it. You'd make a great polician. Hillary Clinton should be honored to have you as her campaign manager for 2016. I don't need to feel better than you. This group of "failed pilots," 'high school drop-outs,' and Kool-Aid-drinkers are the best in the industry at what they do. I'll defend each and everyone of them. Furthermore, if drinking the Kool-Aid continues to put us at the forefront of the industry then serve me up another glass. Unless you're the lead dog, the view never changes. Enjoy your view.

Well, it's my fault for interjecting some sarcastic humor on your glorified bus driver post. Like I said, you have me confused with someone else (go back and re-read the posts on this thread) but I never called you out personally.

And NEVETS, stop saying that we at skywest have a lessor ASAP program. We have the EXACT SAME PROTECTION from the FAA as you do at XJT. We have gone over this over and over and over and you continue to go against what we have shown you as proof.
But you are right XPOO's comments about we are better than you is way off...

I actually didn't mean it like that on this thread. But I see how it can be taken that way. Anyway, since you mentioned it, I don't recall anyone posting the MOU. Are you sure that it prevents management from administering discipline? The MOU would spell that out. If you produce it and it doesn't, then I'll stand corrected.

 

[badog]

And you are only seeing and reading what you want to as well. Not once in this thread have I ever said "we are better than you." Never once did I say that "we are better than Southwest." All I said, and I will say it for the umpteenth time in this thread, "we are damn good at what we do." So maybe a few people in here didn't cut it as a pilot (color blindness, furloughs from 9-11, medical conditions) and maybe some of us dont have a degree (would you really respect your dispatcher more because they have a degree in French Literature or Hotel Management?) I'm not comparing. I'm not calling anyone out (like badogg did to start this thread off). Cringe all you want, but cringe at what is actually being said and not what you wanted to read.

Seriously man, you must have a TINY penis !!!
To answer your inquiry though, since you love to boast about how xjt is dragging your beloved skywest down, you deserve to get abused on this forum. I started this trash thread baiting you to display your d!ck head personality and it worked beautifully because you're a humanity neophyte. As much as you'd love to see xjt fail, we love to watch you make an a$$ out of yourself.
So by all means, keep proving my point for me.

 

[XPOO]

Seriously man, you must have a TINY penis !!!
To answer your inquiry though, since you love to boast about how xjt is dragging your beloved skywest down, you deserve to get abused on this forum. I started this trash thread baiting you to display your d!ck head personality and it worked beautifully because you're a humanity neophyte. As much as you'd love to see xjt fail, we love to watch you make an a$$ out of yourself.
So by all means, keep proving my point for me.

Sir, yes, sir! And you're right. It's tiny...microscopic...hung like a hamster. Or perhaps, I dont even have one at all. It's tough to tell. You though, you make the word "cockpit" proud. Maybe you're right. Maybe I do want to be a pilot someday. And I hope to be just like you. A miserable, intollerant pilot with a huge dick. Then I'll finally have the respect of all my peers.

 

[badog]

Sir, yes, sir! And you're right. It's tiny...microscopic...hung like a hamster. Or perhaps, I dont even have one at all. It's tough to tell. You though, you make the word "cockpit" proud. Maybe you're right. Maybe I do want to be a pilot someday. And I hope to be just like you. A miserable, intollerant pilot with a huge dick. Then I'll finally have the respect of all my peers.

Getting under your skin makes my day!
You just keep proving that point don't you?
Well, at least your ability to not learn makes you unique in the animal kingdom.
Have a nice day in sgu drinking your koolaid.