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[jumppilot1000]

Bendeavor!

 

[VGerect]

Hahah I forgot about that little flea. I saw him in Atlanta a few month ago. Looks funny with the hat on!

Reminds me of the Great Gazoo from the Flintstones cartoon.

 

[1.3XVso]

I guess arrogant rose rises again. The new airline name suits himself quite well... Space shuttle commander arrogant rose at your duty SIR! LAME!

 

[Flyer1015]

I guess arrogant rose rises again. The new airline name suits himself quite well... Space shuttle commander arrogant rose at your duty SIR! LAME!

No it doesn't. He was already logging shuttle landings on the CRJ even before the name change.

 

[1.3XVso]

No it doesn't. He was already logging shuttle landings on the CRJ even before the name change.

Hes not even a good stick! Which is the funny part. Usually people who builds themselves to be supreme pilots are usually the insecure type. What a loser.

 

[Flyer1015]

Hes not even a good stick! Which is the funny part. Usually people who builds themselves to be supreme pilots are usually the insecure type. What a loser.

On taxi out to 22L departure from DTW, Palace 4, the one that goes north towards LAYNE/BNNET/DIRKS/LEATO towards Lake Michigan. Since we're taxiing to 22L, we're facing the direction of departure and there was some weather. So I turn the radar on, and range was lower, 20/10 mile. I open it up to 80/40 to take a look. I barely opened up that range when he snapped, 'It's good CRM to let the other pilot know when you change the radar range.' I mean I had just opened it up to the 80/40 range. I didn't even get a chance to explain what I was doing. Oh well. Inside I thought to myself that it's also good CRM not to be an ass, but hey, I'm just a lowly FO.

 

[filejw]

On taxi out to 22L departure from DTW, Palace 4, the one that goes north towards LAYNE/BNNET/DIRKS/LEATO towards Lake Michigan. Since we're taxiing to 22L, we're facing the direction of departure and there was some weather. So I turn the radar on, and range was lower, 20/10 mile. I open it up to 80/40 to take a look. I barely opened up that range when he snapped, 'It's good CRM to let the other pilot know when you change the radar range.' I mean I had just opened it up to the 80/40 range. I didn't even get a chance to explain what I was doing. Oh well. Inside I thought to myself that it's also good CRM not to be an ass, but hey, I'm just a lowly FO.

Don't know the Hero you guys are talking about but good CRM would have you explaining what you are planning to do before you do it. FYI Iv been burned by a guy changing the range without saying anything .

 

[WIPilot]

Don't know the Hero you guys are talking about but good CRM would have you explaining what you are planning to do before you do it. FYI Iv been burned by a guy changing the range without saying anything .

"Oh all of the precip just disappeared it looks like. We can take direct at this time.


Oh crap!"

 

[Flyer1015]

Don't know the Hero you guys are talking about but good CRM would have you explaining what you are planning to do before you do it. FYI Iv been burned by a guy changing the range without saying anything .

In flight, sure but this is on the ground. Just a technique. Many guys don't even get the radar on until at the runway as part of their takeoff checklists.

What's your burn story? You didn't notice something funny when all that green/yellow/red stuff went away when he opened to a bigger range?

 

[filejw]

In flight, sure but this is on the ground. Just a technique. Many guys don't even get the radar on until at the runway as part of their takeoff checklists.

What's your burn story? You didn't notice something funny when all that green/yellow/red stuff went away when he opened to a bigger range?

....................Fat fingers

 

[filejw]

In flight, sure but this is on the ground. Just a technique. Many guys don't even get the radar on until at the runway as part of their takeoff checklists.

What's your burn story? You didn't notice something funny when all that green/yellow/red stuff went away when he opened to a bigger range?

Well that's scary in its self as I don't know anybody who wouldn't have the radar on in that situation .If I forgot for sure the FO's around here would just say hey let's take a look to the north and I would say thanks.

Although I do have an app that does a real good job with only 5 min lag that I may look at before they close the door.

 

[1.3XVso]

Well that's scary in its self as I don't know anybody who wouldn't have the radar on in that situation .If I forgot for sure the FO's around here would just say hey let's take a look to the north and I would say thanks.

Although I do have an app that does a real good job with only 5 min lag that I may look at before they close the door.

WHO GIVES A FLYING f***! Its a simple cheap radar! Making a job so much harder than it is.

 

[jynxyjericho]

WHO GIVES A FLYING f***! Its a simple cheap radar! Making a job so much harder than it is.

We launch rockets at Pinn-Endeavor. Never has so much been made of so little. If you can make this stupid airplane as complex as possible, insecure pilots everywhere will be able to bang their chests at how difficult the RJ is to fly.

The sooner we drop about 2/3 of the calls we make the better. Get us back to flying airplanes (Mesaba book), give up launching rockets.

 

[1.3XVso]

We launch rockets at Pinn-Endeavor. Never has so much been made of so little. If you can make this stupid airplane as complex as possible, insecure pilots everywhere will be able to bang their chests at how difficult the RJ is to fly.

The sooner we drop about 2/3 of the calls we make the better. Get us back to flying airplanes (Mesaba book), give up launching rockets.

We really have some winners both captains and fo's. I always kick myself and ask why did I get into this industry.

 

[1.3XVso]

Don't know the Hero you guys are talking about but good CRM would have you explaining what you are planning to do before you do it. FYI Iv been burned by a guy changing the range without saying anything .

Really? Well is it good CRM to bust p-56 and ignore suggestions to simply track the 328 radial or just stay west of the Potomac? Ask arrogant rose how that went for him. The majority of f..k ups are idiot who can't think outside the box.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Pindeavor!

 

[e=mc2]

XJ boyz talk more than an AM radio host with the idiotic checklist I've seen them use. Must be if it was good enough for the AVRO best do it on every airplane!

 

[jynxyjericho]

XJ boyz talk more than an AM radio host with the idiotic checklist I've seen them use. Must be if it was good enough for the AVRO best do it on every airplane!

Laughable. Tell you what we will keep it easy and work our way up. Skip the checklists and compare the FMA calls for now. Not in DTW where everyone shuts off the FD, just keep to the book.

 

[Flyer1015]

ROLL CLIMB 151 was the dumbest callout right after takeoff.

 

[gojo]

XJ boyz talk more than an AM radio host with the idiotic checklist I've seen them use. Must be if it was good enough for the AVRO best do it on every airplane!

You're kidding, right? These checklists and FMA calls didn't come from XJ

 

[jynxyjericho]

You're kidding, right? These checklists and FMA calls didn't come from XJ

Lol. Common now, let him get there on his own. It's like dragging you're new dispatcher page by page through the MEL and limitations trying to explain to them why the flight can't go. You gotta start small and work your way up.

PS. when I say "new dispatcher" what I mean is the constant stream of well meaning newbies that we keep for 8 months at a time.

 

[SEVEN]

On taxi out to 22L departure from DTW, Palace 4, the one that goes north towards LAYNE/BNNET/DIRKS/LEATO towards Lake Michigan. Since we're taxiing to 22L, we're facing the direction of departure and there was some weather. So I turn the radar on, and range was lower, 20/10 mile. I open it up to 80/40 to take a look. I barely opened up that range when he snapped, 'It's good CRM to let the other pilot know when you change the radar range.' I mean I had just opened it up to the 80/40 range. I didn't even get a chance to explain what I was doing. Oh well. Inside I thought to myself that it's also good CRM not to be an ass, but hey, I'm just a lowly FO.

Here's a tip: Don't touch the radar! It's a Captain function!

 

[jynxyjericho]

Here's a tip: Don't touch the radar! It's a Captain function!

....? And some guys wonder why we have CRM problems at this place. What about on a couple of the 900s with radar controls for each side? Does the captain set my side too?

 

[filejw]

....? And some guys wonder why we have CRM problems at this place. What about on a couple of the 900s with radar controls for each side? Does the captain set my side too?

After reading this thread and participating a little bit I think I know why some of my coworkers don't want anything to do with Flowups and the like.

 

[jynxyjericho]

After reading this thread and participating a little bit I think I know why some of my coworkers don't want anything to do with Flowups and the like.

Well the majority of your flow ups are compass. We don't have a flow anymore. To my knowledge the only flow that was on here was hired at SWA instead. Relax.

 

[gojo]

After reading this thread and participating a little bit I think I know why some of my coworkers don't want anything to do with Flowups and the like.

I would hope that you don't form opinions of the whole pilot group based on the ramblings of a few

 

[xjhawk]

Ummm, get some new information jericho. We have about 70 or so XJ flows that will be gone in the first year of Delta hiring. But as for that Delta guy who chimed in-just remember the 80/10/10 rule. 80% of the people you meet will be good people, another 10% will be jackholes and the other 10% will be idiots. That rule applies to even Delta people BTW. There is one exception to the rule-when dealing with the military and their leadership-just make that rule 60/20/20. I know this as I have 14 years in the army so I can say I experienced that first hand. If Delta hired off the street or took all flows, the percentage of idiots/tools they would get would be about the same I should think.

 

[Flyer1015]

Here's a tip: Don't touch the radar! It's a Captain function!

Let me guess, you always do the outs and have your FOs do flights back to DTW? You say you are laid back and yet micromanage every possible aspect of the flight?

 

[SplitBar]

Let me guess, you always do the outs and have your FOs do flights back to DTW? You say you are laid back and yet micromanage every possible aspect of the flight?

I think SEVEN is an FO.

 

[SplitBar]

Ummm, get some new information jericho. We have about 70 or so XJ flows that will be gone in the first year of Delta hiring. But as for that Delta guy who chimed in-just remember the 80/10/10 rule. 80% of the people you meet will be good people, another 10% will be jackholes and the other 10% will be idiots. That rule applies to even Delta people BTW. There is one exception to the rule-when dealing with the military and their leadership-just make that rule 60/20/20. I know this as I have 14 years in the army so I can say I experienced that first hand. If Delta hired off the street or took all flows, the percentage of idiots/tools they would get would be about the same I should think.

of the remaining 70 XJ flow ticket holders 98% are top notch pilots / people, who will easily hold their own during Delta Indoc / Training / Line ops ect, ect.