$5000 sign on bonus at Eagle

[Gators]

You do know that Eagle is giving all new hires an ATP and type rating in the airplane correct?

New hires are getting a full type during initial?

 

[BoilerUP]

The cost of doing business for many operations such as Eagle will eventually doom this business model or the entire operation altogether. Many businesses are unable to continue with such high business costs.

Very possible...but giving newhires an ATP/type rating isn't going to be the financial tipping point.

 

[GLEXPilot]

New hires are getting a full type during initial?

Yes, and all their current FOs will be getting them as well.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

I never quite understood why regionals never widely adopted the practice of issuing types/ATPs to all new hires with over 1500hrs. It's basically the same ride -but with steep turns, no-flap lndg, and something else I forget (and to ATP standards, of course). Around when I hired on with 9E, probably less than 1/4 of us even met ATP mins anyway- so the strain on APDs would have been minimal. When our seniority got us to upgrade, all that would've been required is a PC/Sim Chk Airman (after the CA course which is mandatory anyway). The only reason I can figure is that they didn't want us to take the training and run (even though the CL-65 is a useless type rating in the corp/135 world). At 9e, we all had to sign a yr training contract anyway. Who knows--I guess regionals have no choice now but to rethink things.

 

[HA25]

How many 1500 pilots are there out there that will work for AE F/O wages? This will be a test of how the 1500 rule will effect regional flying.

God I hope it kills the regionals.... that or makes them pay wages that make sense.

 

[HA25]

You do know that Eagle is giving all new hires an ATP and type rating in the airplane correct?

that should bring their newhire bust / washout rate to about 50%...

 

[Ops check good]

God I hope it kills the regionals.... that or makes them pay wages that make sense.

Thanks. My lively hood depends on a regional. Not eagle.... but a regional none the less. People love to forget where they came from.

P.S. for my age I feel I am making a good amount of money doing this :smash:

 

[GLEXPilot]

that should bring their newhire bust / washout rate to about 50%...

Why is that? You don't think that the new hires can handle the addition of steep turns and circle to land on the type ride?

 

[jonjuan]

I was not criticizing the regionals for hiring low time guys. Only relating that this 1000 DA-20 SIC has a lot more real world experience than the 1500 SEL VFR pilot.

Not if all the DA flying is non-standardized, seat of the pants, allowing for bad habits to be firmed up. Seen plenty of these guys out there.

 

[pilotyip]

Not if all the DA flying is non-standardized, seat of the pants, allowing for bad habits to be firmed up. Seen plenty of these guys out there.

Don't think that is case with our DA-20's. Ours are trained under 121 guide lines. So actually correct habits are being formed up allow the next move in your career. Our DA-20 pilots go on to career positions at SWA, NJ, JB, UAL, NWA, Atlas, Kalitta, etc., so they must have learned something. In fact one of our pilots who went to one of the above named, said he was disappointed with the training at his new place because it was not structured or documented as well as he found in our DA-20.