SKW to retire 66 older CRJs, and add 34 larger ones....

[General Lee]

So where does it say they are retiring the aircraft?

In the title of the article.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[wms]

It says they're removing them from DAL service. If they find flying for the 25 skyw owned planes it's a net loss of 7 aircraft.

We're gonna have to lose more planes than that to keep up with the lack of staffing we will have when majors start hiring.

But, I'm fairly confident a conservative skyw,inc wouldn't have gone into a deal like this if they didn't have something else in the works.

 

[nickgutnick]

In the title of the article.


Bye Bye---General Lee

removing doesn't mean retiring

 

[Freebrd]

Jenny will jump on anything to be a flamer

 

[General Lee]

removing doesn't mean retiring

Hi, someone asked where it said "retiring" in the article, and I stated in the title, which is true. Don't worry, the 50 seaters will all eventually be retired anyway, especially with high oil. If UAL gets the same scope as Delta, it will be accelerated. They are uneconomical.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[brokedash]

25 planes needing homes...I think I'm developing a theory on how this is another piece of the puzzel.

 

[wms]

If Ual pilots pass the ta as it is with concessions on scope(which I hope they don't, by the way), I'm with the xjet erj pilots for keeping a separate list.

 

[Nevets]

If Ual pilots pass the ta as it is with concessions on scope(which I hope they don't, by the way), I'm with the xjet erj pilots for keeping a separate list.

XJT has replacement rights.

 

[Leroy Smith]

And CAL had 50 seat scope. Didnt even make Uni-Cal blink before the CR7s and E-170 started flying through IAH/EWR. Maybe you guys really do have something boilerplate in place, but......

Airline managements have been pretty consistent in finding end-arounds for most anything labor is able to put in the path of what they want to do

 

[wms]

XJT has replacement rights.

We thought we did too. The TPA has added loopholes to many of the protections our individual contracts once had.

 

[Nevets]

We thought we did too. The TPA has added loopholes to many of the protections our individual contracts once had.

I read about one ASA loophole but please show me where the others are? Or are you just saying that because "everything" has loopholes? Do you have specifics?

In any case, if they find a loophole on that one, management will have a USA/AW situation on their hands. They seem to preach the need for performance incentive revenue. They may end up jeopardizing that.

 

[wms]

I thought a USA/aw situation is what erj guys wanted, separate lists to protect lxjt pilots from CRJ downsizing.

There are already xjt crjs at uax and the plan was to expand them. If the ta passes they may be expanded with -700/-900s per Asa's original goals with Ual. The PURCHASE of xe was contingent on a deal with Ual to replace 75 erjs with 70-seaters of some kind.

It could go either way. But rather than fight over it and screw it all up we should look for the best overall solution.

 

[enuffalready]

Even as the Xjet side was hiring and we were shrinking I've been an advocate for keeping them separate and still am. Let Xjet stay separate and leave us crj alone.

 

[Nevets]

I thought a USA/aw situation is what erj guys wanted, separate lists to protect lxjt pilots from CRJ downsizing.

There are already xjt crjs at uax and the plan was to expand them. If the ta passes they may be expanded with -700/-900s per Asa's original goals with Ual. The PURCHASE of xe was contingent on a deal with Ual to replace 75 erjs with 70-seaters of some kind.

It could go either way. But rather than fight over it and screw it all up we should look for the best overall solution.

The sentiment that I see is that if it means having a concessionary contract, them keep us separate.

The replacement aircraft are specifically for the CAL CPA, not the ERJ UAL CPAs or the CRJ UAL CPA.

 

[XPOO]

The sentiment that I see is that if it means having a concessionary contract, them keep us separate.

The replacement aircraft are specifically for the CAL CPA, not the ERJ UAL CPAs or the CRJ UAL CPA.

Just a helpful hint here, INC wont be buying anymore ERJs. Just thought I would let you know.