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As someone who escaped the regionals, let me make a couple of points to the senior guys here who think the junior guys are greedy. Every single one of you benefited from the age 60 rule when you were junior. EVERY SINGLE ONE! It allowed YOU to move up as the geezers retired. But now that YOU are the geezers, you want to deny the junior guys the same opportunities YOU were given? THAT my friends is selfish greed. And before you bash the regional pilots, consider that the average regional pilot has 10 years seniority at a regional. Sure they knew what they were getting into but they never expected to be stuck there that long. All of you geezers STOLE 5 years from them and now you want to take 5 more? No way. YOU are the selfish ones and YOU DO need to "get out of their seats" just like someone did for you! Shame on you all!
 
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As someone who escaped the regionals, let me make a couple of points to the senior guys here who think the junior guys are greedy. Every single one of you benefited from the age 60 rule when you were junior. EVERY SINGLE ONE! It allowed YOU to move up as the geezers retired. But now that YOU are the geezers, you want to deny the junior guys the same opportunities YOU were given? THAT my friends is selfish greed. And before you bash the regional pilots, consider that the average regional pilot has 10 years seniority at a regional. Sure they knew what they were getting into but they never expected to be stuck there that long. All of you geezers STOLE 5 years from them and now you want to take 5 more? No way. YOU are the selfish ones and YOU DO need to "get out of their seats" just like someone did for you! Shame on you all!
let me guess. You are no where near 60? am I right?
 
Yip, that isnt the point. I have no dog in this fight. My company pays us to leave early. At 60, they pay us 2 1/2 yrs salary to "go away" Because they understand that despite what shape you may think you are in, that the 8hr leg across the pond that left at 9pmCST will leave you drained and trite. I have no doubt that there are plenty of guys younger than you, out of shape and lazy as hell. However the laws that benefited you by luck should not harm your fellow pilot. That is definition of greed, however you want to slice it.
 
As someone who escaped the regionals, let me make a couple of points to the senior guys here who think the junior guys are greedy. Every single one of you benefited from the age 60 rule when you were junior. EVERY SINGLE ONE! It allowed YOU to move up as the geezers retired. But now that YOU are the geezers, you want to deny the junior guys the same opportunities YOU were given? THAT my friends is selfish greed. And before you bash the regional pilots, consider that the average regional pilot has 10 years seniority at a regional. Sure they knew what they were getting into but they never expected to be stuck there that long. All of you geezers STOLE 5 years from them and now you want to take 5 more? No way. YOU are the selfish ones and YOU DO need to "get out of their seats" just like someone did for you! Shame on you all!

Well said. As for age 70..NO!, NO! ,NO! ,NO!, NO!,NO!, NO!, NO!,NO!,NO!, GOD NO!, NO!, NO!, NO!, NO!, NO!, F#%K NO!, NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!.....HAVE I MADE MY SELF CLEAR?!
 
Yip, that isnt the point. I have no dog in this fight. My company pays us to leave early. At 60, they pay us 2 1/2 yrs salary to "go away" Because they understand that despite what shape you may think you are in, that the 8hr leg across the pond that left at 9pmCST will leave you drained and trite. I have no doubt that there are plenty of guys younger than you, out of shape and lazy as hell. However the laws that benefited you by luck should not harm your fellow pilot. That is definition of greed, however you want to slice it.
good for you, sounds like a good place to work, me I still love flying. First night of the that KYIP-MMTO-KYIP, 16 hours duty and 11 flt time is OK, but the second night is much ruffer.
 
let me guess. You are no where near 60? am I right?

Good guess!! ;)

These are the same individuals whose parents gave into them whenever they held their breath and/or threw a tantrum in a store. NOW when life, which those of us with wisdom borne of age, tell them life isn't fair----they're unprepared to handle it.

Oh well, too bad---how sad. Grow up, move on and remember that life is fluid and is ever-changing. The sooner they realize this fact, the happier and more productive they'll be. Or, remain the cry babies you are and look ridiculously foolish and horribly selfish.

I'd be careful about showing how you can't adapt to a situation. NOT a good quality to possess both in the airline industry and most certainly NOT the cockpit.
 
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None of you geezers have answered my question.

WHAT GOOD DOES AGE 70 DO?

WHO DOES 70 BENEFIT?

Calling anyone but yourself selfish is horribly stupid. But stupid is as stupid does right?

This rule benefits NOBODY except the people that are going to retire soon....that is the DEFINITION of selfish.

Lets look at the definition of selfish...

1: concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others
2: arising from concern with one's own welfare or advantage in disregard of others

Wow! Look at that!

NOT going to 70 benefits a whole larger majority of the workforce...so much so that is FREAKING staggering. What a bunch of unbelievable selfish greedy pricks.

Its the same greedy mentality of the old farts on wall street that put you guys in a position that doesn't allow you to afford retiring.


 
Good guess!! ;)

These are the same individuals whose parents gave into them whenever they held their breath and/or threw a tantrum in a store. NOW when life, which those of us with wisdom borne of age, tell them life isn't fair----they're unprepared to handle it.

If you had "wisdom borne of age", you wouldn't have to work until the Grim Reaper takes you. You would have been able to afford to retire early.
 
As someone who escaped the regionals, let me make a couple of points to the senior guys here who think the junior guys are greedy. Every single one of you benefited from the age 60 rule when you were junior. EVERY SINGLE ONE! It allowed YOU to move up as the geezers retired. But now that YOU are the geezers, you want to deny the junior guys the same opportunities YOU were given? THAT my friends is selfish greed.

Easy now, lest Capt Rottencrotch and Co accuse you of having a "sense of entitlement".
 
As someone who escaped the regionals, let me make a couple of points to the senior guys here who think the junior guys are greedy. Every single one of you benefited from the age 60 rule when you were junior. EVERY SINGLE ONE! It allowed YOU to move up as the geezers retired. But now that YOU are the geezers, you want to deny the junior guys the same opportunities YOU were given? THAT my friends is selfish greed. And before you bash the regional pilots, consider that the average regional pilot has 10 years seniority at a regional. Sure they knew what they were getting into but they never expected to be stuck there that long. All of you geezers STOLE 5 years from them and now you want to take 5 more? No way. YOU are the selfish ones and YOU DO need to "get out of their seats" just like someone did for you! Shame on you all!


Talk about needing to see a shrink....at least you "escaped the regionals".


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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good for you, sounds like a good place to work, me I still love flying. First night of the that KYIP-MMTO-KYIP, 16 hours duty and 11 flt time is OK, but the second night is much ruffer.

Yip,

Age 65 was a real stretch, and I doubt 70 will ever come to pass. If you want to keep flying after 65, you can always try traffic watch, pipeline, instruct, or corporate for even older customers who don't care anymore. The Airlines don't want to keep paying for older pilots that have more vacation, higher wages (top scale), and medical problems that occur more often for people in the later stages of life. Unlikely.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Yip,

Age 65 was a real stretch, and I doubt 70 will ever come to pass. If you want to keep flying after 65, you can always try traffic watch, pipeline, instruct, or corporate for even older customers who don't care anymore. The Airlines don't want to keep paying for older pilots that have more vacation, higher wages (top scale), and medical problems that occur more often for people in the later stages of life. Unlikely.



Bye Bye---General Lee
I think age 70 is just a joke, but we are having fun reliving the good ole age 65 days.
 

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