Age 70 being discussed

[Stifler's Mom]

Oh great, five more years of some old geezer taxiing to the runway with his turn signal on the whole time.

 

[BOX OFFICE]

As someone who escaped the regionals, let me make a couple of points to the senior guys here who think the junior guys are greedy. Every single one of you benefited from the age 60 rule when you were junior. EVERY SINGLE ONE! It allowed YOU to move up as the geezers retired. But now that YOU are the geezers, you want to deny the junior guys the same opportunities YOU were given? THAT my friends is selfish greed. And before you bash the regional pilots, consider that the average regional pilot has 10 years seniority at a regional. Sure they knew what they were getting into but they never expected to be stuck there that long. All of you geezers STOLE 5 years from them and now you want to take 5 more? No way. YOU are the selfish ones and YOU DO need to "get out of their seats" just like someone did for you! Shame on you all!

 

[pilotyip]

As someone who escaped the regionals, let me make a couple of points to the senior guys here who think the junior guys are greedy. Every single one of you benefited from the age 60 rule when you were junior. EVERY SINGLE ONE! It allowed YOU to move up as the geezers retired. But now that YOU are the geezers, you want to deny the junior guys the same opportunities YOU were given? THAT my friends is selfish greed. And before you bash the regional pilots, consider that the average regional pilot has 10 years seniority at a regional. Sure they knew what they were getting into but they never expected to be stuck there that long. All of you geezers STOLE 5 years from them and now you want to take 5 more? No way. YOU are the selfish ones and YOU DO need to "get out of their seats" just like someone did for you! Shame on you all!

let me guess. You are no where near 60? am I right?

 

[CorpCaptain]

Yip, that isnt the point. I have no dog in this fight. My company pays us to leave early. At 60, they pay us 2 1/2 yrs salary to "go away" Because they understand that despite what shape you may think you are in, that the 8hr leg across the pond that left at 9pmCST will leave you drained and trite. I have no doubt that there are plenty of guys younger than you, out of shape and lazy as hell. However the laws that benefited you by luck should not harm your fellow pilot. That is definition of greed, however you want to slice it.

 

[james1]

As someone who escaped the regionals, let me make a couple of points to the senior guys here who think the junior guys are greedy. Every single one of you benefited from the age 60 rule when you were junior. EVERY SINGLE ONE! It allowed YOU to move up as the geezers retired. But now that YOU are the geezers, you want to deny the junior guys the same opportunities YOU were given? THAT my friends is selfish greed. And before you bash the regional pilots, consider that the average regional pilot has 10 years seniority at a regional. Sure they knew what they were getting into but they never expected to be stuck there that long. All of you geezers STOLE 5 years from them and now you want to take 5 more? No way. YOU are the selfish ones and YOU DO need to "get out of their seats" just like someone did for you! Shame on you all!

Well said. As for age 70..NO!, NO! ,NO! ,NO!, NO!,NO!, NO!, NO!,NO!,NO!, GOD NO!, NO!, NO!, NO!, NO!, NO!, F#%K NO!, NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!.....HAVE I MADE MY SELF CLEAR?!

 

[russtgol]

I hope it passes.....

 

[pilotyip]

Yip, that isnt the point. I have no dog in this fight. My company pays us to leave early. At 60, they pay us 2 1/2 yrs salary to "go away" Because they understand that despite what shape you may think you are in, that the 8hr leg across the pond that left at 9pmCST will leave you drained and trite. I have no doubt that there are plenty of guys younger than you, out of shape and lazy as hell. However the laws that benefited you by luck should not harm your fellow pilot. That is definition of greed, however you want to slice it.

good for you, sounds like a good place to work, me I still love flying. First night of the that KYIP-MMTO-KYIP, 16 hours duty and 11 flt time is OK, but the second night is much ruffer.

 

[zonejumper]

let me guess. You are no where near 60? am I right?

Good guess!!

These are the same individuals whose parents gave into them whenever they held their breath and/or threw a tantrum in a store. NOW when life, which those of us with wisdom borne of age, tell them life isn't fair----they're unprepared to handle it.

Oh well, too bad---how sad. Grow up, move on and remember that life is fluid and is ever-changing. The sooner they realize this fact, the happier and more productive they'll be. Or, remain the cry babies you are and look ridiculously foolish and horribly selfish.

I'd be careful about showing how you can't adapt to a situation. NOT a good quality to possess both in the airline industry and most certainly NOT the cockpit.

 

[CaribPilot]

None of you geezers have answered my question.

WHAT GOOD DOES AGE 70 DO?

WHO DOES 70 BENEFIT?

Calling anyone but yourself selfish is horribly stupid. But stupid is as stupid does right?

This rule benefits NOBODY except the people that are going to retire soon....that is the DEFINITION of selfish.

Lets look at the definition of selfish...

1: concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others
2: arising from concern with one's own welfare or advantage in disregard of others

Wow! Look at that!

NOT going to 70 benefits a whole larger majority of the workforce...so much so that is FREAKING staggering. What a bunch of unbelievable selfish greedy pricks.

Its the same greedy mentality of the old farts on wall street that put you guys in a position that doesn't allow you to afford retiring.

 

[flyboyike]

Good guess!!

These are the same individuals whose parents gave into them whenever they held their breath and/or threw a tantrum in a store. NOW when life, which those of us with wisdom borne of age, tell them life isn't fair----they're unprepared to handle it.

If you had "wisdom borne of age", you wouldn't have to work until the Grim Reaper takes you. You would have been able to afford to retire early.

 

[flyboyike]

As someone who escaped the regionals, let me make a couple of points to the senior guys here who think the junior guys are greedy. Every single one of you benefited from the age 60 rule when you were junior. EVERY SINGLE ONE! It allowed YOU to move up as the geezers retired. But now that YOU are the geezers, you want to deny the junior guys the same opportunities YOU were given? THAT my friends is selfish greed.

Easy now, lest Capt Rottencrotch and Co accuse you of having a "sense of entitlement".

 

[General Lee]

As someone who escaped the regionals, let me make a couple of points to the senior guys here who think the junior guys are greedy. Every single one of you benefited from the age 60 rule when you were junior. EVERY SINGLE ONE! It allowed YOU to move up as the geezers retired. But now that YOU are the geezers, you want to deny the junior guys the same opportunities YOU were given? THAT my friends is selfish greed. And before you bash the regional pilots, consider that the average regional pilot has 10 years seniority at a regional. Sure they knew what they were getting into but they never expected to be stuck there that long. All of you geezers STOLE 5 years from them and now you want to take 5 more? No way. YOU are the selfish ones and YOU DO need to "get out of their seats" just like someone did for you! Shame on you all!

Talk about needing to see a shrink....at least you "escaped the regionals".


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

good for you, sounds like a good place to work, me I still love flying. First night of the that KYIP-MMTO-KYIP, 16 hours duty and 11 flt time is OK, but the second night is much ruffer.

Yip,

Age 65 was a real stretch, and I doubt 70 will ever come to pass. If you want to keep flying after 65, you can always try traffic watch, pipeline, instruct, or corporate for even older customers who don't care anymore. The Airlines don't want to keep paying for older pilots that have more vacation, higher wages (top scale), and medical problems that occur more often for people in the later stages of life. Unlikely.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[pilotyip]

Yip,

Age 65 was a real stretch, and I doubt 70 will ever come to pass. If you want to keep flying after 65, you can always try traffic watch, pipeline, instruct, or corporate for even older customers who don't care anymore. The Airlines don't want to keep paying for older pilots that have more vacation, higher wages (top scale), and medical problems that occur more often for people in the later stages of life. Unlikely.



Bye Bye---General Lee

I think age 70 is just a joke, but we are having fun reliving the good ole age 65 days.

 

[BOX OFFICE]

Talk about needing to see a shrink....at least you "escaped the regionals".


Bye Bye---General Lee

Funny that you took a moment to bash me even though it seems we're in complete agreement on this issue. Get help.

 

[Time Served]

What age does the USAF require their pilots to stop flying at?

 

[CX880]

Why even have an age limit?

 

[makersmarc]

That has ALWAYS been my plan. That has been my plan for my whole career.

The question is why isn't that YOUR plan? Because you are greedy scum.

You sound like the guys who worked for Eastern during the strike. I've spoken to a few of them. They HONESTLY believe they did nothing wrong.
You justify your actions by whatever means necessary, but in the end it is always about you.

I'm not attacking you or your post, Cooopervane, I just thought yours was a good jumping off point.

Is there anyone that read the first page of this thread that didn't think it would devolve into references to "greedy scum" and scabs?

Now, to make some popcorn and watch the continuing action...

 

[Plainsman]

I heard this yesterday and thought it was great, Some of Delta's over 60 crowd bidding back to FO on heavy stuff. They buddy bid with over 60 captains. The geriatric FO gets removed from trip and sits at home with pay. Brilliant!

 

[BrickTop]

Not a chance

 

[damnflyboy]

Just die already.

 

[aircombat]

Why even have an age limit?

agreed... We should allow 15 year old captains if they can pass the medical.

 

[Abernathy]

Why even have an age limit?

Because the older you get, the more likely you are to unexpectedly keel over. If it happens at your desk, no big deal. If it happens in flight...

The problem is all these baby boomers think they're invincible since the advent of lipitor and fat pills.

 

[pilotyip]

Because the older you get, the more likely you are to unexpectedly keel over. If it happens at your desk, no big deal. If it happens in flight...

well said, in order to prevent this we should take the age of the youngest pilot to ever keel over in a cockpit or while driving to or from work and make that the mandatory retirement age. It would be the safest thing to do. BTW The actual most likely to keel over age is between 45-55, make it by there, it is less likely to happen.

 

[damnflyboy]

Second thought...heck with age. How about BMI? That should clear it out nicely.

 

[Kalifornia]

well said, in order to prevent this we should take the age of the youngest pilot to ever keel over in a cockpit or while driving to or from work and make that the mandatory retirement age. It would be the safest thing to do. BTW The actual most likely to keel over age is between 45-55, make it by there, it is less likely to happen.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your babbling....

http://www.disastercenter.com/cdc/Leading Cause of Death 1999-2005.html

So is that why they require one pilot younger than 60 in the cockpit at all time, you know they don't allow two over 60 pilots to fly together, you don't remember? With your baboon logic, and I still single you out here, because do really believe you are the most disrespectful of safety here and especially given your position as a middle management yahoo with some of your self believed wisdom, maybe you know they could throw in like a 17 year old high school drop out as copilot to even things out when a 71 year old flies an actual approach in the mountains of Mexico late at night, dude.

 

[pilotyip]

Don't let the facts get in the way of your babbling....

http://www.disastercenter.com/cdc/Leading Cause of Death 1999-2005.html

So is that why they require one pilot younger than 60 in the cockpit at all time, you know they don't allow two over 60 pilots to fly together, you don't remember? With your baboon logic, and I still single you out here, because do really believe you are the most disrespectful of safety here and especially given your position as a middle management yahoo with some of your self believed wisdom, maybe you know they could throw in like a 17 year old high school drop out as copilot to even things out when a 71 year old flies an actual approach in the mountains of Mexico late at night, dude.

I have missed you, you bring so much to discussions here.

Second thought...heck with age. How about BMI? That should clear it out nicely.

Hey I like that, how about we add BP, make 110/70 like mine as the standard.

 

[Abernathy]

BTW The actual most likely to keel over age is between 45-55, make it by there, it is less likely to happen.

A) Your facts are off, Yip. Your risk more than doubles past 60.

B) I'm OK with an age 55 retirement age

 

[pilotyip]

B) I'm OK with an age 55 retirement age

I am not age 70 or bust. The great thing about the USA we can disagree and have either one of killed or thrown in jail.

 

[Fubijaakr]

The great thing about America is you can retire whenever you want. Unless you're a pilot, of course.