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SLI is out, it looks good for both sides

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Im with old crow! Pay protect SWA fo for captain pay and integrate fairly. Junior SWA fo's do not deserve 4 year bump ahead of any AAI guy! Taking something that doesnt belong to them is wrong! As per the proposal it will take 10 years of attrition to get back to DOH. Off to arbitration we go.
easy trigger, it's the ALPA boys that gave up their own AT FO's to protect their captains. Think about that.
 
That's why ALPA sold out the bottom 649 FO's and gave away the seniority of the bottom 550 captains?

Roger that! It's like the Fram oil filter commercial. Pay me now or pay me later. Those dudes may keep their seat but they will take it up the butt for the rest of their careers.

Gup

So true, but guys like oldmanpilot have already given up, just not wanting to put up a fight for their seniority, which is everything in this business. Oh well.


OYS
 
Are you SWAPA guys tuff enough to vote it down? Then do it. Stop complaining and do it.


We hope you guys will vote it down for us...it will pass at SWAPA...
 
There's plenty of pain to go around from what I see...on both sides. Starting to think it will still pass with both companies.
 
Are you SWAPA guys tuff enough to vote it down? Then do it. Stop complaining and do it.


We hope you guys will vote it down for us...it will pass at SWAPA...

I'm betting 70-80% pass on the AT side, and 50%, + 1 on the SW side either way.
 
If I was an AAI guy, I'd vote no. An arbitrated decision would be better for the AAI guys even if its a crapshoot.
 
There's plenty of pain to go around from what I see...on both sides. Starting to think it will still pass with both companies.

From what I have heard and seen in the crew room and overnights....too many SWA guys and gals that are very unhappy. Feel GK gave away too much and also didn't sweeten the deal on the SWA side.. SLI list means nothing for the next 3 years since there will not likely be growth since AT (by our manning models) is overstaffed. Chances of having any upgrades the next 3 years is very low with the seat lock. Also the ATL fence is to long. Almost 700 AT Capt's will hit age 65 before the fence is down. I had thought I would see more pilots being positive about getting this behind us......
 
From what I have heard and seen in the crew room and overnights....too many SWA guys and gals that are very unhappy. Feel GK gave away too much and also didn't sweeten the deal on the SWA side.. SLI list means nothing for the next 3 years since there will not likely be growth since AT (by our manning models) is overstaffed. Chances of having any upgrades the next 3 years is very low with the seat lock. Also the ATL fence is to long. Almost 700 AT Capt's will hit age 65 before the fence is down. I had thought I would see more pilots being positive about getting this behind us......

700 AT capts will hit 65 In ten years?
 

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