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vixin said:
So do I. After speaking with Tom W. I feel real good about arbitration and what will come afterward.
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What will come afterward ..... ? You will be at the bottom of a very long seniority list. Just like you are now.
 
-9Capt said:
He just asked a question...Geez, who pissed on your cornflakes?

BTW it was a simple question and you still didn't answer it.
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Nobody pissed on my cornflakes, and I did answer his question.

Lighten up. Your career is about to get a lot better. Enjoy it.
 
-9Capt said:
Seriously? Why don't I just give you my SS# and mothers maiden name also?
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You know I wasn't asking for that. I was looking for a general "lie" that was within a year or so. I'm just trying to understand your anger and hostility.

Gup
 
dicko said:
What will come afterward ..... ? You will be at the bottom of a very long seniority list. Just like you are now.
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And you'll still be flying your turboprop. Enjoy.
 
GuppyWN said:
You know I wasn't asking for that. I was looking for a general "lie" that was within a year or so. I'm just trying to understand your anger and hostility.

Gup
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Gup, I'm not the least bit angry. Quite the laid back, easy going type actually. Don't mistake my responses to the offhanded innuendo being spread by some of your supposed coworkers as hostility.
 
I am far from the bottom. Why is it cute? I like what he had to say enough said. Sorry you AAI guys dont see it. I feel like arbitration will work out just fine for us. One way or another. -9 I see you still have that idiotic tag. Didnt you read what your EX CEO was saying about AAI? It wasnt looking to good for your career progression. Its amazing they allow some of you to fly planes. Then again some of you just sit at home. I need to saty away again. Just the same AAI guys spewing their same garbage. To blind to see the forest for the trees! You guys read to much into things. Ill say it again. I like our position if it goes to arbitration. Why is it so hard for trannies to understand? Some of us are fine with arbitration. Why shouldnt we be?
 
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vixin said:
Just the same AAI guys spewing their same garbage.
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The same could easily be said about a lot of the supposed WN pilots that post here.

I like our position if it goes to arbitration.
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Me too, and I have a feeling thats where we'll end up. Some will be happy with the outcome, some will not and we'll all move on.

See, we agree on something.
 
Originally Posted by -9Capt
This 12yr Capt made just a hair over $200K + $20K to the Bfund. Never touched opentime, just used the system.
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That's an easy 12 day/month line at straight pay, with no system gaming at all over here. Enjoy it.....
 
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Tripower455 said:
That's an easy 12 day line at straight pay over here. Enjoy it.....
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Great. I'm looking forward to working there. I hope the pay/ benefits you have now will continue indefinitely. As anyone who's been in this business long enough will tell you, things have a tendency to change. Hopefully SWA will be the exception.
 
vixin said:
Why is it so hard for trannies to understand? Some of us are fine with arbitration. Why shouldnt we be?
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Seems like you are painting with a pretty broad brush considering there has only been around 3 AirTran people posting on the last 5 pages.

I personally want to thank all of you for your tireless efforts in solving our SLI. Without your dedication I don't think we'll be able to reach a fair agreement.

"All aboard the broken record express, next stop, beat the dead horse, then continuing on to redundancy"

Keep up the hard work guys, but if you're going to keep banging your heads against the wall, please wear your helmets.
 
-9Capt said:
Great. I'm looking forward to working there. I hope the pay/ benefits you have now will continue indefinitely. As anyone who's been in this business long enough will tell you, things have a tendency to change. Hopefully SWA will be the exception.
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As a 2nd generation airline pilot with 25 years in the biz (8 airlines), I am aware that things change. The AT acquisition is a great example.

It's also given me some perspective on what we have and what you're getting, and I have a hard time understanding some of your attitudes.
 
Tripower455 said:
As a 2nd generation airline pilot with 25 years in the biz (8 airlines), I am aware that things change. The AT acquisition is a great example.

It's also given me some perspective on what we have and what you're getting, and I have a hard time understanding some of your attitudes.
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It's not an attitude, it's a difference of opinion.

You said that you're "aware that things change". I'm aware of that also. Things like CBA's change every few years, guaranteed. Seniority, not so much.

What happens in a few years when SWA buys Alaska and you guys take a pay cut. I'm not saying it's definitely going to happen, but knowing this biz it's certainly possible.

Don't take this crap seriously, it's FI for Christ sake.
 
-9Capt said:
It's not an attitude, it's a difference of opinion.
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Nope. It's an attitude. Whether you'll admit it or not, you guys have the opportunity to get one of the most sought after airline jobs in the world, without jumping through the hoops that every other SW pilot had to jump through, and 1000's of other pilots would love to jump through right now. Many of you guys here on FI are treating it as if you're getting hosed, and that WE are the enemy, when frankly, we have far more to lose than you do.

See the above responses to my innocuous post to Ty. Yours included.

You said that you're "aware that things change". I'm aware of that also. Things like CBA's change every few years, guaranteed. Seniority, not so much.
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My seniority was certainly not forever. I, like most airline pilots, started at the bottom of the list every time I started over.


What happens in a few years when SWA buys Alaska and you guys take a pay cut. I'm not saying it's definitely going to happen, but knowing this biz it's certainly possible.
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Who knows? What happens in a few months when GH get fenced in to wither on the vine? What happens when an arbitrator comes up with a completely arbitrary "solution", that you don't like? What happens when you lose your captain seat?

Not saying any of this is gonna happen, "but knowing this biz it's certainly possible."

You can "what if" all you want.

The fact is that SW has been consistently profitable since the early '70's and you are gonna reap huge benefits by being part of it, as have all the VJ/AT guys that left to come here over the years. It's a big career step up for the AT guys, regardless of where you end up on the list.


Don't take this crap seriously, it's FI for Christ sake.
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I haven't taken anything on FI seriously since I joined to get the answers to a certain home study exam years ago.

The SLI will be taken care of by the NCs.
 
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