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altimaklr

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Keep negotiations going during the holidays to avoid a messy picket and work slow-down

In January, JCBA will fail and break down, 9E ALPA will be offered TA2 w/ slightly better health care and 10M signing bonus as an "interim" solution, it gets voted in

After the holidays are over and training catches up, XJ jets start moving to 9E certificate, starting with the CRJ200's

XJ pilots are given two impossible options - Move to EWR/IAH and fly the Q400 on the horrible Colgan contract, or go to 9E at zero seniority, 2nd year pay

XJ pilots sue, but Pinnacle mgmt stalls for years

By the time XJ pilot win in court, most XJ pilots will be gone and moved on. Company will have saved more $$ than they lose in any court judgement

9E mgmt stonewalls Colgan ALPA for years, 9E pilots work under their "interim" contract for another 10 years
 
The 3rd option is to offer a contract that is so good that PNCL mgt can't pass it up and make up for it with a big up front bonus. Tie the whole thing up for a couple of years to give everyone enought time to move on.
 
Keep negotiations going during the holidays to avoid a messy picket and work slow-down

In January, JCBA will fail and break down, 9E ALPA will be offered TA2 w/ slightly better health care and 10M signing bonus as an "interim" solution, it gets voted in

After the holidays are over and training catches up, XJ jets start moving to 9E certificate, starting with the CRJ200's

XJ pilots are given two impossible options - Move to EWR/IAH and fly the Q400 on the horrible Colgan contract, or go to 9E at zero seniority, 2nd year pay

XJ pilots sue, but Pinnacle mgmt stalls for years

By the time XJ pilot win in court, most XJ pilots will be gone and moved on. Company will have saved more $$ than they lose in any court judgement

9E mgmt stonewalls Colgan ALPA for years, 9E pilots work under their "interim" contract for another 10 years
Living in a fantasy world I see.
 
I have heard this from several sources. I know one thing for absolute certain...PCL mgt will do anything ANYTHING to keep costs down.
 
On a serious note. I hope that this event will sprinkle some magic powder in our pilot groups balls sack and do something for once.
 
Guys, I hate to tell you this but Altimaklr is more right that he is wrong.

I have been predicting that PCL management will do whatever they what to do regarding moving aircraft and personel. The will simply give the union the finger and continue as they always have. Management will simply say 'sue us' in response. The union will, and it will drag out for years.

Don't believe me? How well did the scope arguement last when PCL bought Colgan? Management just does what they want at PCL, get used to it.

This whole thing about a JCBA is smoke and mirrors, just like the last 5 years. I always thought the PCL negotiatiors didn't know what they were doing, but in the end they have "Hosed" the union AT EVERY SINGLE TURN. It's been embarrasing.
 
PCL mgt will do anything ANYTHING to keep costs down.

Bingo.

This is how they have operated since the contract was inked in 1999. For over 11 years Pinnacle management has been arguing what the definition of 'is' is in the contract....and winning!

D.W., the magician. He could tour with Cris Angel, except he probably couldn't levitate.
 
So I take it the author of this thread is an FO at 9E looking for an upgrade to a Mesaba 900? From day one the selfish and childish ones at 9E have stated the transfer of Mesaba jets and little more than a staple for their pilots is an option. Get this people, 9E is short pilots now, guess what would happen if they attempted to cancel our (Mesaba) contract and dump our earned senirity? Yes many of us would leave or stop its operations. So they would again be in more of a HURT for pilots when the future tells us that regional airlines will be struggling for pilots with the new work rules and hiring criteria. So there you have it, many of us at XJ only want our contract and work rules and guess what that would mean for you 9E and colgan pilots? Yes that is right, a bug pay raise and a lot better work rules. Oh yeah and what else do we want? Fair and reasonable SLI. And what do some of you always hint at? screwing us over and dumping our seniority to behind your most Jr pilots. Guess what, if we do get that asset transfer all you idiots (just the idiots, not the good 9E guys and gals) want, and we are screwed on our SLI 9E will be in a HURt for pilots.
 

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