What do RJET pilots think happens after RJET SLI?

[Popeye0537]

Nice. Answer one childish post with another.

Not childish, it's what they asked for and what we offered. But since you don't fly for RAH, you wouldn't know.

 

[Axel]

Dressed like penguins?

Seriously, what exactly does that mean? I have images of tuxedos which does not seem likely, but less likely is the image of them covered in wet feathers.

Would someone care to clarify the metaphor?

 

[Megalops]

I have an image of them arriving in a clown car, honking each others horns, tripping over their big yellow shoes, if they were dressed as penguins even funnier no??

 

[Axel]

I have an image of them arriving in a clown car, honking each others horns, tripping over their big yellow shoes...,

Heh. Of course you do.

 

[Cardinal]

The previously agreed upon dress code for the SLI proceedings was business casual, IBT showed up in full uniform. They agreed to keep proposals confidential, then showed them to the world. Already the IBT has proven they can't keep their word, thus anything said in a representation campaigin must be promptly discounted.

Further the IBT has risked the interests of their pilot group in this latest stunt with the proposals. The IBT leadership is banking on Arbitrator Eischen remaining impartial, despite their open defiance of his wishes. That sort of brinkmanship is simply poor risk management, nothing to gain from such a course, but lots to lose.

 

[SizzleChest]

From what 2 of my RAH friends said, the arbitrator did NOT tell them to take anything down and did NOT find them in violation of the agreement....

 

[En Mort Main]

hey sizzle don't let facts get in the way of emtions.
If people FEEL it was wrong it should be wrong...If people FEEL like others should not wear their uniforms they should not wear them. If people FEEL the arbitrator should do something, he should. If people FEEL like republic took their jobs (citation lover) it must be true.
Since FEELINGS are what matters in this business.

En Mort Main

 

[CitationLover]

hey sizzle don't let facts get in the way of emtions.
If people FEEL it was wrong it should be wrong...If people FEEL like others should not wear their uniforms they should not wear them. If people FEEL the arbitrator should do something, he should. If people FEEL like republic took their jobs (citation lover) it must be true.
Since FEELINGS are what matters in this business.

En Mort Main

Feel? No feel, reality. Republic 190's/170's are flying our old routes simply cause we wouldn't accept Republic crappy wages.

 

[Axel]

The previously agreed upon dress code for the SLI proceedings was business casual, IBT showed up in full uniform...

Thanks for the answer.

This all is a little bit reminiscent of the "Battle of the Flags" at Panmunjom

 

[AnimalTale]

hey sizzle don't let facts get in the way of emtions.
If people FEEL it was wrong it should be wrong...If people FEEL like others should not wear their uniforms they should not wear them. If people FEEL the arbitrator should do something, he should. If people FEEL like republic took their jobs (citation lover) it must be true.
Since FEELINGS are what matters in this business.

En Mort Main

As a Frontier Pilot, I cant put all the blame on young, motivated and hungry RAH pilots for what happened. If their Union said it was OK to fly Midwest routes for 1/4 of what Midwest pilot's flew them for, then albeit. However, I am truly disgusted with what has happened. Basically a beautiful high paying career (Midwest) with pride and substance has been demolished by 'greedy' mngmt and eager shareholders.

We as a unified bunch (RAH) can never ever replace the history, quality and culture of Midwest. Shame on our Unions (ALPA, FAPA and IBT) for ever allowing mngmt the leeway to dismantle this fine airline (Midwest)via whipsawing and politics.. We all had a hand in this.

One less quality job in our profession. Shame on us.

CYA

 

[BUDDHA145]

I agree with you flipper!!! Management is careless and
and unfurgiven, but even though we (pilots) know this
we just point the finger at each other!!! hey is just easy.

 

[CitationLover]

As a Frontier Pilot, I cant put all the blame on young, motivated and hungry RAH pilots for what happened. If their Union said it was OK to fly Midwest routes for 1/4 of what Midwest pilot's flew them for, then albeit. However, I am truly disgusted with what has happened. Basically a beautiful high paying career (Midwest) with pride and substance has been demolished by 'greedy' mngmt and eager shareholders.

We as a unified bunch (RAH) can never ever replace the history, quality and culture of Midwest. Shame on our Unions (ALPA, FAPA and IBT) for ever allowing mngmt the leeway to dismantle this fine airline (Midwest)via whipsawing and politics.. We all had a hand in this.

One less quality job in our profession. Shame on us.

CYA

Well put, especially the highlighted section. MEH ALPA sold everyone below #62 down the river in their SLI proposal.

 

[En Mort Main]

I sure hope that everyone that is a member of RAH gets over their bruised ego and put their pride aside, or you will end up the next U.S. Airways and be easy game for the other LCC's.
Simple facts are RP/S5/RW/F9/YX/L3 all have to learn how to play nice. They can bitch and moan and do a horible job and become jobless. Or they could put aside their bruised ego and pride and work to make RAH what they want it to be. F9 can fight to bring that wonderful culture to all RAH/ YX had to fight for the pay before now they can lead the fight for higher rates at all RAH. CHQ/S5/RW can welcome all new members into the RAH family and share some knowledge how the company really works.
All in all the pilots of RAH have the future in their hands....they collectively have the power to become successful or burn the place down.
How that decision is made will dictate the future...wisdom and intelligence vs arrogance and pride.
It will be interesting how this all goes down.

En Mort Main

 

[CrownandCoke]

I sure hope that everyone that is a member of RAH gets over their bruised ego and put their pride aside, or you will end up the next U.S. Airways and be easy game for the other LCC's.
Simple facts are RP/S5/RW/F9/YX/L3 all have to learn how to play nice. They can bitch and moan and do a horible job and become jobless. Or they could put aside their bruised ego and pride and work to make RAH what they want it to be. F9 can fight to bring that wonderful culture to all RAH/ YX had to fight for the pay before now they can lead the fight for higher rates at all RAH. CHQ/S5/RW can welcome all new members into the RAH family and share some knowledge how the company really works.
All in all the pilots of RAH have the future in their hands....they collectively have the power to become successful or burn the place down.
How that decision is made will dictate the future...wisdom and intelligence vs arrogance and pride.
It will be interesting how this all goes down.

En Mort Main

it won't happen. Us Lynx guys, the Frontier guys, and the Midwest guys are up for fighting these *kers in management. The Republic/Shuttle/Chq guys don't care, as long as "they have jobs". Because after all, that's all that matters right now. Republic pilots are spineless and will sell all of us Lynx guys down the river so long as they don't have to worry about losing their jobs. :angryfire

 

[En Mort Main]

Arn't Lynx guys paid less than RAH...
Just an observation...Keep fighting the good fight and kill all the jobs.
En Mort Main