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I think the poolies should be the first in line for a new interview, but I do not think it should be an automatic class date.

Really? You sound like a Delta sellout. I think you should have to interview before you can go to the 777...

USAIr's first class after the merger was all AWA poolies who swam almost 3 years in the pool. And more than a year after they were informed the pool w's flushed. USAIr pilots east and west went to bat for them after a new head of recruitment made it very clear she would be in charge and would have a new process. HER process. For a "NEW" company.

Pilots advocated- then chiefs- and the recruiter found out where her position was on the totem pole. This is one thing that USAir got right- and is a very good precedent.

Good luck to all poolies and all applying.
Don't sell out once you get on property. The culture of selling out runs deep, but is changing for the better- so I've heard- yet to be proven.
 
Really? You sound like a Delta sellout. I think you should have to interview before you can go to the 777...
Really? You sound like some southwest chicken ********************!
I think you should have to pay for your job before you get it.....Oh yeah, you did!:laugh:

USAIr's first class after the merger was all AWA poolies who swam almost 3 years in the pool. And more than a year after they were informed the pool w's flushed. USAIr pilots east and west went to bat for them after a new head of recruitment made it very clear she would be in charge and would have a new process. HER process. For a "NEW" company.
It's all becoming quite crystal clear now from mr. pay for training pilot. A us air furloughee who couldn't make it after he lost his job, and had to buy a job to keep working in the aviation industry! Got it!;)

Pilots advocated- then chiefs- and the recruiter found out where her position was on the totem pole. This is one thing that USAir got right- and is a very good precedent.
Well that, and sending you packing!

Good luck to all poolies and all applying.
Don't sell out once you get on property. The culture of selling out runs deep, but is changing for the better- so I've heard- yet to be proven.
Says the ****************************** bag working for a pay for training company who endorsed age 65!
 
FWIW, don't count on ANYTHING ANYONE says about the number of by-pass pilots who MIGHT return.

Pilots are #1 for saying one thing, and doing something else completely different when the moment of truth comes. If they say they expect 50 of the by-passees to return, plan on that number being 300.

It was the same as the PERPS and any other voluntary program.

Nu
 
Not me ******************************bag but I would have been furloughed from an alpa carrier had I not jumped ship-
just tired of ALPA saying it's so important to be unified and then working against each other- there is no support for each other as alpa carriers- you're all pissing on each other trying to make sure everyone knows that you are better than the other- it's one thing to compete with Swapa or APA- but nwa poolies were hired by an alpa carrier that you merged with. Why would anyone argue against this?

You guys are amazing-

Don't worry about me and what I'm doing scope- why don't you try and do the right thing just once- we all know you're dying to replace your -90's w/ C1000's and outsource them for a nickel added to your pension-

Can't do one right thing if there's no benefit for you....
 
Not me ******************************bag but I would have been furloughed from an alpa carrier had I not jumped ship-
just tired of ALPA saying it's so important to be unified and then working against each other- there is no support for each other as alpa carriers- you're all pissing on each other trying to make sure everyone knows that you are better than the other- it's one thing to compete with Swapa or APA- but nwa poolies were hired by an alpa carrier that you merged with. Why would anyone argue against this?

You guys are amazing-

Don't worry about me and what I'm doing scope- why don't you try and do the right thing just once- we all know you're dying to replace your -90's w/ C1000's and outsource them for a nickel added to your pension-

Can't do one right thing if there's no benefit for you....
Some of these poolies were turned down by Delta and then ran over to NWA to get hired, expecting the merger. If Delta didn't want them then, why would they want them now? The guys that didn't do that should maybe be considered for some type of preferential interview but not the other guys. There was a reason they didn't get hired!
 
Some of these poolies were turned down by Delta and then ran over to NWA to get hired, expecting the merger. If Delta didn't want them then, why would they want them now? The guys that didn't do that should maybe be considered for some type of preferential interview but not the other guys. There was a reason they didn't get hired!

Lake:
There's a pattern here. Looks like wavedooshbag was one of those you spoke of. He didn't make the cut at DAL and resorted to buying his job!
Too bad he can't take some of that money and tough guy attitude and buy himself a clue and some balls to back it up with!;)
 
Some of these poolies were turned down by Delta and then ran over to NWA to get hired, expecting the merger. If Delta didn't want them then, why would they want them now? The guys that didn't do that should maybe be considered for some type of preferential interview but not the other guys. There was a reason they didn't get hired!

Proved my point. Very arrogant. I have no idea what the process is at NWA- but to characterize being hired at northwest or ANY major as a formality is just ignorant. It's an accomplishment - no matter what.

Regardless of what the flamer says- I have no dog in this fight. It's very simple- poolies can't speak loudly on this issue. I can and feel like it's right. Remember, there are thousands of delta pilots who were hired through NWA's process. The only difference between them and poolies is that they were lucky enough to have started class.

Life isn't fair- but we can stick up for each other and voice our desire to make it fair.

You guys don't even try- and you're a shining example of why alpa pilots suck.
 
Some of these poolies were turned down by Delta and then ran over to NWA to get hired, expecting the merger. If Delta didn't want them then, why would they want them now? The guys that didn't do that should maybe be considered for some type of preferential interview but not the other guys. There was a reason they didn't get hired!
And theres DL peeps worried about the CPZ flow throughs??? Hypocrisy....The first 160ish folks were interviewed by an NWA panel.
 
Proved my point. Very arrogant. I have no idea what the process is at NWA- but to characterize being hired at northwest or ANY major as a formality is just ignorant. It's an accomplishment - no matter what.
How would you know? You had to pay to play!

Regardless of what the flamer says- I have no dog in this fight. It's very simple- poolies can't speak loudly on this issue. I can and feel like it's right. Remember, there are thousands of delta pilots who were hired through NWA's process. The only difference between them and poolies is that they were lucky enough to have started class.
For someone who doesn't have a dog in this fight, you sure keep spouting your dut drainer quite loud. Usually the guy with the loudest mouth is the shortest guy.

Life isn't fair- but we can stick up for each other and voice our desire to make it fair.
You guys don't even try- and you're a shining example of why alpa pilots suck.
I laugh at the arrogance coming from some fng doosh bag who had to buy his job to get on, then supported age 65 causing 5 years of stagnation in his very own airline, and then, telling others why alpa pilots suck!:laugh: The hypocrisy is unbelievable!
Tell you what kid, I won't tell you how to make the fries, you don't tell us how to take care of poolies!
You might be feeling nervous with the cutbacks coming in your general direction junior. Don't worry, I hear Delta is hiring! Keep that resume updated, you won't even have to buy your job!
 
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Lake:
There's a pattern here. Looks like wavedooshbag was one of those you spoke of. He didn't make the cut at DAL and resorted to buying his job!
Too bad he can't take some of that money and tough guy attitude and buy himself a clue and some balls to back it up with!;)

Your funny! Just another guy that got beat up and made fun of a lot in high school.
 
Just because someone had a bad day at their DAL interview doesn't mean they would not be a great DAL pilot, some of the best pilots I know were turned down by DAL...most likely because they were so nervous interviewing for their dream job that they screwed the pooch. It is just my .02 that if these same folks were hired by NWA, and DAL saw it fit to merge with NWA then what is wrong with hiring these folks after a friendly hand shake and meeting to be sure they are still in shape for the job?
JP
 
What could a first year Delta FO expect to make? Any estimates of how long until a holding a line? Any chance of / or how long until getting Atlanta?

Thanks
 
Some of these poolies were turned down by Delta and then ran over to NWA to get hired, expecting the merger. If Delta didn't want them then, why would they want them now? The guys that didn't do that should maybe be considered for some type of preferential interview but not the other guys. There was a reason they didn't get hired!

I know of one guy who was turned down by NWA and hired by DAL. It worked both ways.
 
What could a first year Delta FO expect to make? Any estimates of how long until a holding a line? Any chance of / or how long until getting Atlanta?

Thanks

most of those questions can't be answered right now because we have no constant basis to compare with. Bases and flying is being shifted around and so are the pilots. A new guy hired tomorrow could see a pine by the spring if on the most junior plane and the expansion plans saltay the same or increase IMHO. Pay in the first year will likely be around 55kish, second year 70+ and 3rd year 95+. Atl shouldn't be too hard to get after a few months if not right away. Getting on early in the hiring from this point on will open up alot of doors for those hired. The younger you are the bigger the doors are if you catch the wave early ( in the next couple years)
 
Octane,

I think that Superpilot is being a bit optimistic with his yearly pay examples. Your first several months will be on training pay which isn't the $55ish an hour. Then on reserve in the non summer months I wouldn't plan on much more than the 70 hours a month. Line holders can make much more than reserves if willing to work, but I still think his numbers are a bit on the high side.
 
Your funny! Just another guy that got beat up and made fun of a lot in high school.

At least I went to high school junior!;)
I see that GED is working out good for ya. Super size my order. And your late for your instrument lesson! I know mom and dad paid a lot for those lessons you keep failing! Don't worry, the world needs fry makers too!
 
At least I went to high school junior!;)
I see that GED is working out good for ya. Super size my order. And your late for your instrument lesson! I know mom and dad paid a lot for those lessons you keep failing! Don't worry, the world needs fry makers too!

Hey! don't pick on me old man just because I have a GED and can still do your job just as well. Those fries are to help your old azzzz medical out. Lol. How is that EKG going to work out this time around?
 
Hey! don't pick on me old man just because I have a GED and can still do your job just as well.
Maybe you can tell me about it personally next time I'm rocking the headboard with your mommy's head!:laugh:

Those fries are to help your old azzzz medical out. Lol. How is that EKG going to work out this time around?
EKG? Fine. Its that bad rash I got from your mommy that has me concerned!
That beeping sound is the fry machine fatso, get to it! And you should talk about medicaling out? Try losing 100 lbs, lardass!
 
I'll also bet they have class sizes of at least 40 that way they can have the 20 Compass, 9 Mesaba, and the rest bypassers until they run out of bypassers.

Are they going to mix in the Compass guys w/ the bypassers or wait until all the bypassers that want to return come back and then mix the Copmpass/Mesaba guys w/ the new hires off the street?

Baja.
 

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