Age limitation for 91K

[Jack Campbell]

Semore, Likewise! I hope we can grab some suds sometime, on me! Take care, man!

 

[cldsfr79]

Hey Super Genius,
You might want to rethink what you're posting.
You might even want to change the way you think.
All your flying-career problems would soon be over with a harassment-hostile work place charge/settlement.
Also you might want to check federal law.
What a bigoted thing to say.

BTW: You might have already helped someone complete step 4.

How to Prove Age Harassment in the Workplace
As the baby boomer population continues to age, workplace harassment on the basis of age has become a growing problem. More and more frequently, older American workers are subjected to ageist remarks, jokes and slurs, as well as to more aggressive harassment aimed at forcing older workers out of the workplace. In some cases, the older worker in fact resigns his employment due to overbearing emotional and physical stress resulting from the harassment. In other cases, the worker, having no economic alternative, continues to endure the harassment. Under either scenario, when age harassment occurs on a regular and pervasive basis, a cause of action for hostile work environment harassment can be established.
Things You'll Need:

• Diary or notebook with illustrative ageist remarks and misconduct recorded
• Names of offenders and of witnesses to harassment

1. Step 1
   Review employee handbook for procedures to follow when harassment is perceived to have occurred.
2. Step 2
   Report the harassment to the manager or other supervisory level person designated by the company’s no-harassment policy. If no such policy exists, report the harassment to your supervisor or head of human resources.
3. Step 3
   Record in a notebook, diary, or journal any comments said in your presence that reflect a negative or hostile view of your age or of older workers in general. Record details about the speaker and the names of witnesses to the statements.
4. Step 4
   Retain copies of emails, bulletin board postings and other documents that evidence ageist statements.
5. Step 5
   Assuming the harassment continues after your report, file a Charge of Discrimination with your local district office of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

Wow. Keep an eye out for this guy. He's going to be the grey haired guy with the coke bottle glasses sitting quietly in the back of the room taking notes in his diary. He'll probably be wearing one of those "as seen on TV" hearing aide device.

 

[jppt2000]

Wow. Keep an eye out for this guy. He's going to be the grey haired guy with the coke bottle glasses sitting quietly in the back of the room taking notes in his diary. He'll probably be wearing one of those "as seen on TV" hearing aide device.

Ha! Nope, not taking notes, not me.
Although I have seen the Feds on more than one occasion sit in FBO lounges doing just that, you'd be amazed at what pilots talk about in public.
Just like I misunderstood the movie lines from Dumb and Dumber, you've misunderstood what I've posted, or I didn't effectively illustrate my point.
I've heard out on the road and now seen on FI, careless ignorant windbags pontificate this crap once too often, and it amazes me how easily one could be on the receiving end of a lawsuit / company disciplinary action.
Free Speech, no argument here against that, but be prepared to accept the consequences of your actions.
It's hard to get past the insidious greed and selfishness when people post about older pilots (hoverounds).
Cognitive testing, as far as I know is a very difficult thing to perform fairly, and objectively.
Oh and lets set another arbitrary age limit while we're at it (65).
Anyone of you bold messageboard cowboys gonna prove me wrong?
Fly safe, and BTW Dumb and Dumber was great.

 

[jonjuan]

"Where's the booze?"
"I got robbed by a sweet old lady and I didn't even see it comin."

 

[bizjet800]

Nice accent, where ya from?
Austria.
Well, G'day mate!

 

[BuckMurdock1]

..we got no money, we got no jobs (true for me soon)....OUR PETS HEADS ARE FALLING OFF!!

 

[NachoMamma]

That John Denver is full of ********************!

 

[rettofly]

Hangin' it up!

Been following this string with lots of amusement.

Pontificating punks need to get a clue! Someday you will be looking at this from the other side.

Age is what the body tells the mind. I've decided that 68 is enough after lots of years living out of a suitcase 24 weeks a year. Am I going to miss the flying? You bet. Am I going to miss the airlining, the second-guessing and the checkrides? Nope. Can I still pass a Class I medical? You bet.

I'm lucky. Got a supportive spouse (43 years) who has been encouraging me to follow my dream and a bunch of grandkids who haven't seen enough of me. Of course, that's only my opinion.

It's time to move on and let someone younger than me look to the left for advice and see his reflection in the side window.

Three more months and I'm done. Good luck and beaucoup tailwinds to all.

 

[Semore Butts]

Well said Sir, heres a little more news for the "infinitely wise young".

Just saw this.

I guess worrying about the old guys may become the least of your problems. you may end up with an acummulative record that could cost you your job.

I stand corrected, many of you may not make it to my age in the aviation field.

I recommend you channel your energies towards calling you senators and raising hell regarding this legislation. I'm sorry, my information source did not have the actual bill numbers.

Spread the word.


The following legislation in Washington D.C. has passed the U.S. House of Representatives and is currently in the Senate for consideration:

-Pilot Records Database which would codify check-airmen comments into permanent record, regardless of pass/fail

-Inability for pilots to hold air carriers liable for inserting improper comments into database

-Mandatory reporting of ALL DISCPLINE, regardless of whether it is flight/safety related into database by all air carriers.

The following bills have been drafted by representatives for consideration:

1. Bill to require video recording devices in every cockpit

2. Bill to allow CVR/FDR devices to be used by air carriers for random sampling and/or discipline.

 

[phishn@daves]

I have read most of what has been posted here and I can agree with both sides.

I'm 34, I have been furloughed three times in the past 8 years, totaling 2.5 yrs off (some guy's alot more and for longer periods). I also understand that it is the decisions you make along the way that either guide you or hurt you.

My quick story is; I was a regional pilot, then Captain..........left for JB. Spent almost a year at JB on the A320 and we got pregnant (my first child). At the time,......fuel was at an all time high.......and there were rumour rumblings that JB MAY furlough. I decided to be proactive and beat the rest to a job, so I went to a "recession proof" Fractional. Currently furloughed.

"If" I had stayed at JB, I would still have a job. I made a mistake in trying to judge the "climate" of the industry.

My point is......I'm not the only guy/girl out there who has made such a choice to leave a "good" job to try and maintain a paycheck. This industry is like the tide, it ebbs and flows. If you are lucky enough to be on top of a wave...........you can ride it. If not, then you have to put your head down and let the waves crash over you.

I do know that some people are just "bored" and are flying for Fractionals, 135's, 91's.......whatever.....but some don't have a choice.