Age limitation for 91K

[Ralph Wiggums]

I am now an older pilot one year away from 60 and I am as alert as I ever was.

Sorry, Sparse. I'll turn 50 in a couple months and I just finished my 5th marathon a couple weeks ago in 3:47 flat, but there is no way I am as alert as I was in my 20s or 30s.

 

[Dooker]

Some people are not fit to fly at 40 and others can do it succesfully at 70 so why should it be age determined? I was a younger pilot once and thought age 60 was enough. I am now an older pilot one year away from 60 and I am as alert as I ever was. There has to be a better way than age itself.

Agreed. I've flown with guys in their sixties who do just fine. Not coincidentally, they're ususally the guys who still exercise regularly and eat sensibly and don't polish off three or four beers every night in the lounge at the hotel and who take responsibility for their own health. The guys who suck are usually the ones lugging around the big beer guts, who jones for a cigarette after two hours in the seat and who can't keep it together when the unexpected comes along.

You'd think the FAA could develop some kind of cognition/reflex screening that tests a person's ability to multitask and concentrate, etc. Either that, or they need to significantly up the requirements for holding a first class.

 

[fly4funcrj]

Agreed. I've flown with guys in their sixties who do just fine. Not coincidentally, they're ususally the guys who still exercise regularly and eat sensibly and don't polish off three or four beers every night in the lounge at the hotel and who take responsibility for their own health. The guys who suck are usually the ones lugging around the big beer guts, who jones for a cigarette after two hours in the seat and who can't keep it together when the unexpected comes along.

You'd think the FAA could develop some kind of cognition/reflex screening that tests a person's ability to multitask and concentrate, etc. Either that, or they need to significantly up the requirements for holding a first class.

They do. It's called a ramp check and one's ability to hide all the sh1t wrong with the plane and keep your poker face is the greatest test of all..

 

[hangarrat]

You'd think the FAA could develop some kind of cognition/reflex screening that tests a person's ability to multitask and concentrate, etc. Either that, or they need to significantly up the requirements for holding a first class.

I thought that was what a .293b and .297 was all about.

 

[Hung Start]

The nice thing about Alzheimers is you meet new friends every day.

Now, who am I chatting with again??

Hung

 

[Mike Jenvey]

<<<< The nice thing about Alzheimers is you meet new friends every day.>>>

..... & you can wrap your own Christmas presents!!

You can spot the "more mature" pilots (like me) - you have to jot down notes on the Blackberry to help you remember....... but you can't find the Blackberry for at least 10 mins!

 

[gunfyter]

Young guys need the faster reaction time to make up for all the jams they get themselves into because of their dearth of experience.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Young guys need the faster reaction time to make up for all the jams they get themselves into because of their dearth of experience.

...or intervene after Captain Corpse has thoroughly jacked up the box yet up again.

I don' t know how to determine where the limit should be, but I do know that the majority of the guys I fly with over 65 need to be polishing lounge chairs with their backsides somewhere.

 

[o2bflyn]

I'm 33 years old. Personally, I find a mandatory retirement age silly. If the the pilot is competent, let the pilot fly.

I agree with you, but the one problem with that is that there are pilots out there (of various ages for that matter) that should have hung it up years ago.

Maybe instead of an age requirement, the FAA should look into going away from the "canned" checkrides at FSI. I can now do the LOC 27 Circle 36R at MEM with both engines shutdown, eyes closed, with one wing tied behind my back.

 

[stingray]

I have 23 yrs before I reach the age of 65,
But If I'm 65 and can still pass a medical and I still have the ability to fly.
I will be fishing, screw the flying as a job "Enjoy Life"

 

[Semore Butts]

Where will I be Stingray?

I have 23 yrs before I reach the age of 65,
But If I'm 65 and can still pass a medical and I still have the ability to fly.
I will be fishing, screw the flying as a job "Enjoy Life"


Since you can tell the future, I just wondered where I will be?

This type thread comes up from time to time and you get the same old comments.

When I was your age I had 2 year + tours overseas coming?

Damn! Didn't see that coming?

My plan is to be "wetting worms" at 65 as well. I hope we both make it that far, and, are financially secure enough to carry out our mission!

Good luck to you all.

Take care, Semore

P.S. Just bought a Vette, some guy tried to explain to me which were Stingrays and which weren't.

(Gonna refurb it and try to make a buck or 2 off it)

 

[o2bflyn]

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P.S. Just bought a Vette, some guy tried to explain to me which were Stingrays and which weren't.

(Gonna refurb it and try to make a buck or 2 off it)

What year did you buy? My dad is a vette fanatic!

 

[cjdriver]

We need to start an electronic petition to send to the FAA that states. This line of work is a lot more demanding than 121 and, a 65 age limit is necessary. Anyone know how to get one started?

I wouldn't recommend you send anything to the FAA, they'll revoke whatever tickets you have due to your apparent stupidity. On the other hand, knock yourself out.

 

[transpac]

We need to start an electronic petition to send to the FAA that states. This line of work is a lot more demanding than 121 and, a 65 age limit is necessary. Anyone know how to get one started?

There are a lot of flying jobs that are more demanding than Part 121. Compared to single-pilot night freight, frax flying is a piece of cake. You going to include freight dogs in your petition too? Some of the aerial fire fighting guys might also snicker a bit when they hear about the tough world of frax flying.

 

[glasspilot]

We should all just petition for a kabillion dollar pension. The government is handing it out these days so let's make it happen. I'll be fine with a kabillion dollars. No, really.


Never hear from me agin...

 

[Hawkered]

I wouldn't recommend you send anything to the FAA, they'll revoke whatever tickets you have due to your apparent stupidity. On the other hand, knock yourself out.

Freakin' funny man!!

 

[o2bflyn]

We should all just petition for a kabillion dollar pension. The government is handing it out these days so let's make it happen. I'll be fine with a kabillion dollars. No, really.


Never hear from me agin...

See, I was thinking I would need at LEAST 1.5 Kabillion.I would settle though.

 

[AvroJockey]

BINGO!!!

Though when i am over 65 you can bet i won't be slepping someone's bag around. I am not saying I am better than the guys doing it now but screw that.

The problem is if you screw up your medical at one guy you can go to the next until you find a guy with loose practices. I flew with 'experienced' gentleman whom ask what AME I go to because the one he tried was about to ding him on his eye tests...until he walked out.

If you don't believe me about 'loose' practices, ask any FedEx or Northwest pilot who have used the Dr. Bach assembly line in Germantown, TN. You get a first class medical if show up for it!

There's a Captain at NJA that gets in the cockpit before the owner shows up, because he doesn't want them to see his difficulties with getting in and out. That's pathetic!

 

[glasspilot]

That is not true. If you fail a medical you can not go to the next AME and "try again". Once you fail a medical you are done. If you simply go to another and re-apply you will be screwed as one of the questions on the form is "have you failed a medical before". Lie on that and see what the FAA thinks about it.

The trick is to find an easy going AME early on. Truth be told, I'm in the market now. My AME is a ball buster.

 

[popgoesbubble]

Somebody at NJA was saying that ICAO is thinking about pushing for Age 65 for Part 135 if that where to happen then I guess anyone over 65 at any of the fractional would be out the door as we do both 135 & 91K trips. GO ICAO!!!!!