UAL/CAL one step closer

[contrail67]

I think what CAL is doing is getting so close to UAUA that when they go under, they are so close that no one else can get the leftovers.

United is not going under.....you have any educated information on this?

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Last week Cal Had about 20 crews sleep in IAH crew room do to the weather and operations... Get this, they work flights the next day after sleeping in the crew room...

true story!

CAL has worked under substandard conditions for 25 years. Why would it change?

Good thing CAL gets all those industry awards. If you tell them they are great some of them might believe it and are more willing to accept the substandard conditions. Overall, the group has been beat down so much they do not have a will to fight.

 

[Dan Roman]

I think what CAL is doing is getting so close to UAUA that when they go under, they are so close that no one else can get the leftovers.

Dude, do you were your Delta uniform to bed??
All your posts are how wonderful Delta is and how screwed up everyone else is.
I think the DAL/NWA merger was in fact very well executed and will make a very good airline. Just don't forget PanAm was a very good airline in the 60's. So was TWA. Braniff was the most profitable airline of the 1970's. Eastern was the biggest airline at one point in the 1980's.
Anything could happen, the economy could crater and DAL could be too big and UAL/CAL good reorganise and be the dominate airline. We work in an industry that is a crap shoot no matter who you work for.
I hope not everyone at DAL is too cocky cause I bought stock in DAL.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Dude, do you were your Delta uniform to bed??

At least Delta bought him his uniform. Have you got any good deals at JCPenny on your uniform lately? Hows your health insurance. Are you covered or do you just raid the first aid kit every chance you get and call that free health insurance?

 

[luckytohaveajob]

All your posts are how wonderful Delta is and how screwed up everyone else is.

I see you are a 67 captain. How do those 14 hour three days pay? Does CAL give you 14 hours of pay if you fly 14 hours? Or do you do it for 10 hours and sleep in the crew room?

 

[fullsail]

Still waiting for ACL to "educate" us as to when UAL is going under.

 

[Dan Roman]

At least Delta bought him his uniform. Have you got any good deals at JCPenny on your uniform lately? Hows your health insurance. Are you covered or do you just raid the first aid kit every chance you get and call that free health insurance?

I don't work for CAL, UAL, or DAL.
My company pays for my uniform and we have very good health coverage.
Thanks for your concern though!

 

[contrail67]

ACL!!...where is the information about United going under? We all count on your inside information.

 

[Truckdriver]

At least Delta bought him his uniform.

No they didn't. Delta is only paying to re-outfit the old NWA guys. All newhires at Delta are on the hook for the entire uniform. The health insurance probably isn't much better than CAL or UAL either. You just get it from day one.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

ACL!!...where is the information about United going under? We all count on your inside information.

I have no clue, but it is the opinion of many airline execs that UAUA had better get their act together or their days are numbered.
You guys need to oust the CEO!

 

[catIIIc]

This does not help UAL's situation, but they still have 2 billion in assets they could sell.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081217/ual_outlook.html?.v=2

 

[ACL65PILOT]

This is true! It is sad to see such a great airline get pilfered like this!

 

[luckytohaveajob]

No they didn't. Delta is only paying to re-outfit the old NWA guys. All newhires at Delta are on the hook for the entire uniform. The health insurance probably isn't much better than CAL or UAL either. You just get it from day one.

Might be the case today, but I am sure in the past 25 years since 1983, DAL has paid for its pilots uniforms.

And I am sure a DAL pilot gets paid soft time unlike CAL. And I am sure a DAL pilot doesn't sleep in the crew room during severe wx ops. And I am sure a DAL pilots family members are covered on a company health plan the entire DAL pilots career.

RJ contracts are better than CAL's. And RJ pilots are more interested in a good contract than CAL.

Who wants to merge with CAL? Do you want to be lowered to CAL standards because that would be part of the deal? CAL has no standards.

 

[Truckdriver]

Might be the case today, but I am sure in the past 25 years since 1983, DAL has paid for its pilots uniforms.

And I am sure a DAL pilot gets paid soft time unlike CAL. And I am sure a DAL pilot doesn't sleep in the crew room during severe wx ops. And I am sure a DAL pilots family members are covered on a company health plan the entire DAL pilots career.

RJ contracts are better than CAL's. And RJ pilots are more interested in a good contract than CAL.

Who wants to merge with CAL? Do you want to be lowered to CAL standards because that would be part of the deal? CAL has no standards.

Not gonna argue with you there. CAL has some issues, but I'd be happy to work there if I wanted to live in one of your bases. I chose to work for Delta because they have a base where I want to live. Contract specifics were not really part of my decision making process. As an old XJT guy, I have lots of friends at CAL. Some love it, some hate it. I think you'll find that at every airline in the world. Most guys who love it live where they want to live and don't commute.

 

[BID]

This does not help UAL's situation, but they still have 2 billion in assets they could sell.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081217/ual_outlook.html?.v=2

I wonder how difficult it would be to convert those assets to cash? I was surprised that is all the cash they will have. It does not seem like a lot for an airline that size.