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Just curious if Delta, Inc. would have gone along with a flow? My guess is no, but the union never proposed it, so who knows?
Thank God we didn't get a flowthrough in 2000....Flowthroughs are mainly job protection for the mainline folks when the furloughs happen....
How many mainline pilots have been hired in the past 10 years? What is the DOH of the junior UAL,NWA,AMR pilot? You got your flowback now with Compass and Mesaba.....
Just curious if Delta, Inc. would have gone along with a flow? My guess is no, but the union never proposed it, so who knows?
As Puffdriver writes, I think this looks ugly for Comair.
Delta can't get out of its other RJ contracts (and yet keeps signing more contracts for the big RJ's )
I know that Compass had an arrangement but I was not aware of any flow-through arrangement with Mesaba. Do they really have one?
Plug, Sir, you still don't get it. The RJDC was never about "no scope." If anything the RJDC would have made scope tighter by restricting these airplanes that Delta negotiated to outsource.
First, a staple job would have kept the flying on the Delta list. That push failed BEFORE the formation of the RJDC.
The RJDC was a response to ALPA telling the ASA pilots that they could not negotiate a contract with the principle of their business who had operational control of the airline. ASA was not allowed to contract with Delta.
The RJDC won that point. ALPA changed it's policy and today ASA has a contract with it's owners and Comair has a contract with Delta.
Sure the RJDC would have liked to see these airplanes restricted to ASA and Comair, but, to make it sound like they wanted unlimited outsourcing is completely wrong. They wanted to stop outsourcing.
There are some Mesaba pilots on the NWA list proposal. I have not heard they will be treated any differently.It will be interesting to see how the flowup Mesaba and Compass people will be treated.....
Sure, there could have been an industry leading flow through. Unfortunately, the RJDC along with both MECs had NO leadership. Their greed and feigned leverage led to the downfall of any kind of workable, realistic solution. Now, the junior Comair pilots are paying a heavy price, and it looks as if the junior ASA pilots will follow suit.
Too bad that the senior RJDC pilots controlling the agenda didn't REALLY practice what they preached. Abysmal failure.
There are some Mesaba pilots on the NWA list proposal. I have not heard they will be treated any differently.
There were some NWA mainline poolies that concerns were expressed about. I think the "flow up" pilots are probably in a better position than those hired by NWA and awaiting a class date.
Eventually there will be upwards movement - demographics tells you that. Mesaba and Compass are the two best entry jobs in the business. Mesaba, Compass and SkyWest have two year pilots holding lines in 90 (76) seaters.
Eventually there will be upwards movement - demographics tells you that. Mesaba and Compass are the two best entry jobs in the business. Mesaba, Compass and SkyWest have two year pilots holding lines in 90 (76) seaters.