Air net

[steve3137]

They say average 38,000 first year pay. can anyone confirm that or deny? also how hard would it be to get in LUK? thinking of leaving the regionals and looking for some info. also how much extra are hey offering for prior121 experience? thanks in advance

 

[wlacy]

I don't believe they offer any bonuses for prior 121 experience as it has nothing to do with the type of flying that they actually do. However, a bonus is given for having 135 minimums.

 

[MD11Drvr]

I am not sure flying for the regionals would prepare you for AirNet's kind of flying. Its more like flying for Airnet would have better prepared you to fly most anywhere else. Nothing quite the like the vertical learning curve that takes place single pilot 135. Good Luck

 

[SPilot]

Hi,

Confirmed: you'll easily make 38,000 at Airnet. With the sign on bonus ($3000 for 135 mins) and Per Diem, you'll make 38K (35+3) even with a low time run, and easily top 40K with a 5-day run or a floater position (per diem).
There's a slight risk you'd get a run that only makes you about 29-30K (+ sign on bonus), but you can usually bid a better run within a few months.

The excellent benefit package Airnet provides will probably save you lots of money on medical expenses (first $1000 paid for).

Right now they're is getting better staffed, and lately there hasn't been a bid sheet out (all runs covered). But they are still hiring.

As said above, the flying Airnet does requires you to have very solid fundamental simulator and IFR skills, being able to hand fly old six-packs with or without GPS, and flying profiles that will get you there slightly faster than your typical 121 profile. Lots wash out in the simulator training; it is very though, prior 121 or not (in my class one 121 guy made it, another failed). It seems they prefer to hire "DO_IT_RIGHT" guys with CFI/MEI licenses.

 

[Caboclo]

When I was there LUK was not an extremely popular base, but you can never tell. They might have hired a couple local boys from there recently. It's just luck of the draw.

 

[hunt234]

Unless www.airnet.com is incorrect, we are still hiring into bases. If you have 135 mins, you can choose your base. I have a base 5 day run, and I make 38K. That is without per diem since I have no overnights. The website says call for details about any questions you have. If you take the time to call, and ask good questions, they will remember you when you apply. Pilot Recruitment loves people to want the job and are proactive about finding out about the company.

PM me if you want more specifics.

 

[Captain Morgan]

When I was there, I had one of the highest time runs. I flew 5 days and 7.8-8.0 hrs a day. Sometimes I even had to overnight at a hotel so I wouldn't go over the flight time limits. I probably cleared about 45k a year. Not bad. I love Airnet. Everytime I went for a new job, Airnet was always helping me get it. I would consider going back myself. The only time I ever griped about my job was when I was loading bank bags in the rain and when the 310's I flew didn't have radar and I had to visually pick through the storms. No one ever pressured me. I will vouch for the training, it's some of the best out there. Honestly, it was the best time of my life. Good luck!

 

[JJET44]

Description: AirNet Express Line Pilots: Baron, Chieftain, Caravan pilots - Upgrade to Lears, Sign-On Bonus Available! What a great time to be a pilot! AirNet is hiring! We are one of the Nations largest FAR 135 time-critical freight airlines conducting 500 nightly flights to 100 cities in 42 states with an average on-time percentage of 98%. We operate Barons, Chieftains, Caravans and (30) Learjets. These flying opportunities offer hands on flying for pilots who really love to fly and enjoy a challenge. Be a person, not a number. Why start over? We offer increased salary packages for pilots with previous 135/121 experience. We need pilots to start their careers at AirNet in high-performance prop aircraft and then quickly advance to the Lear. We offer a paid time-building program for pilots with less than 1200 hours. Minimum Requirements: To Apply: Please go to the AirNet web site at www.airnet.com, click on the (work with us) icon, then go to the (flight crew) section and fill out the AirNet online pilot application. You may also e-mail a resume to [email protected]. Call our toll-free Hotline: 1-877-247-6386. Certificates: Commercial (CFI, CFII, and MEI credentials preferred).Ratings: ASEL, AMEL (not limited to centerline thrust), Instrument. Medical: Must be issued as a First, but can downgrade to a Second Education: High School Diploma (College education preferred). No Minimum Flight Time Required to Apply! Ready to rise to the challenge? Apply online at www.airnet.com. For more information on a career with AirNet call 1-877-247-6386 or e-mail [email protected].


People that work for a company are not always the best informed about that company!

 

[landlover]

wish they'd hire directly into the left seat of the lear based in TEB. i'd be all over it.

 

[TigerDriver]

wish they'd hire directly into the left seat of the lear based in TEB. i'd be all over it.

That guys is a lifer, I don't think a hand grenade would move him

 

[b707guy]

I'm sure there are some downsides, but it's really nice to see so many people speaking highly of this company.:beer:

 

[Onlyflyfreight]

Description:

People that work for a company are not always the best informed about that company!

True, but sometimes what our recruitment folks says and what our Training/Flight department offers doesn't always match. We have had some "episodes" lately, but I think they have been straightened out.

Ask about the increased salary package and then get it in writing.

The absolute minimum you will make at AirNet (As a 1st year prop PIC) will be 2155.2 before tax. You'll get 13.47 an hour and will have monthly guarantee of 160 hours. Then the bonus, overtime, charters and pr Diem.

Some runs have overtime, some don't. Some runs have overnights (pr Diem), some don't. Some bases are located such that charters come frequently (LCK being one of them) and some don't'. You get the idea!

I'm not trying to discourage you, but the reality is that we have runs that pay base and 8 on 6 off doesn't give any sort of guarantee to make any overtime. As a matter of fact you can have several check with out any extra.
I would plan my finances based on the guarantee.

I would not come to Airnet if you for any reason need a particular base in order to work here. For all you know you might end up in TEB. Our industry seems to be making a turn for the worse and when it does people stay put. LUK has always been popular and is likely to stay that way.

I've worked here a while and enjoy it! Like most places we have issues, but for the most part they treat you nice and pay is ok. Insurance is good for a single guy/gal, but not that great for a family. Our maintenance is outstanding and nobody will make you fly a broken airplane or fly in weather that an airplane has no business flying in.

Good luck,

 

[J and E's Daddy]

wish they'd hire directly into the left seat of the lear based in TEB. i'd be all over it.

That guys is a lifer, I don't think a hand grenade would move him

Scott's ok. It's just funny he wears shorts even in the middle of the winter!

 

[wlacy]

Just skimmed through the most recent Airnet 10-K and lets just say it didn't give me the "warm fuzzy's".

 

[Way2Broke]

• How hard is it to get into APA, and DTW? Can you float until the base you want becomes available?
• Do the props have radars or autopilots (stupid question from my prior experience hauling checks)

• How are upgrades awarded?
• What is the typical progression of a pilot: Baron, Caravan, Lear?
• Does prior jet / bank check / on-demand count for anything when it comes to awarding aircraft / base (insurance requirements) or is is just seniority?
• What is training like?
• What about training pay / accommodations?
• Where is training?
• How much do internals help?

 

[Princedietrich]

• How hard is it to get into APA, and DTW? Can you float until the base you want becomes available?
• Do the props have radars or autopilots (stupid question from my prior experience hauling checks)

• How are upgrades awarded?
• What is the typical progression of a pilot: Baron, Caravan, Lear?
• Does prior jet / bank check / on-demand count for anything when it comes to awarding aircraft / base (insurance requirements) or is is just seniority?
• What is training like?
• What about training pay / accommodations?
• Where is training?
• How much do internals help?

(disclaimer, my info is almost 2 years old. feel free to update or correct)

APA isn't an option right out of the gate, it's a jet-only base. DTW is a prop base and can be a starting option.

Yes they do, but some are better than others. Some are just plain possessed.

When a route/seat is open at a particular base, bid sheets go out (used to be every Thursday). Awarded based on seniority. An example would be route 222 based at AGC in a baron, or reserve lear SIC based at LCK.

typical progression is prop, lear SIC, lear PIC. The van, the baron, and the chief are all considered equal.

It definitely won't hurt.

Training runs about a week or week and a half ground school, 5 sim sessions, 5 flights, transition to a new plane if necessary, and you're off and running.

They put you up in a hotel (it was a candlewood when I did it) and you get paid per diem (it was $150 a week when I did it) during training. As soon as you pass the checkride you go on payroll.

Training is at LCK.

They help A LOT.

 

[Way2Broke]

• Any chance of going straight into the van as a floater or in DTW?
• How big of a base is DTW?
• Is there a training contract?
• How long before I might see the Lear and or APA?
• Do they need instructors and is there any extra money in that?
• Is there a financial benefit to being a floater, and if so what is the down side?
• Do they like stinky freight trash like myself? (if you know me you know I can't type that long without cracking a lame joke)
• I am sure I will have more as the day goes on. Lame jokes and questions that is. I just filed for unemployment, talk about dehumanizing.

 

[hunt234]

• How hard is it to get into APA, and DTW? Can you float until the base you want becomes available?
• Do the props have radars or autopilots (stupid question from my prior experience hauling checks)

• How are upgrades awarded?
• What is the typical progression of a pilot: Baron, Caravan, Lear?
• Does prior jet / bank check / on-demand count for anything when it comes to awarding aircraft / base (insurance requirements) or is is just seniority?
• What is training like?
• What about training pay / accommodations?
• Where is training?
• How much do internals help?

Much of this info you can find on www.airnet.com

Everyone starts in the props. You are then able to upgrade to Lear strictly based on seniority, with the exception that you have to have 2000 hours for insurance. This is rarely a problem however. APA is a jet base, so you can't start there. However you can pick any prop base and float there until a run in that base opens up. Upgrade times seem to mainly rely on the industry. There used to be Lear runs on the bid sheet every week. I haven't seen one now for a few months.

Surprising to many, nearly all of our planes have radar/gps/autopilot. The company is starting to replace the gps's in the Lear with GNS430's.

Training is at LCK. it's 4-5 weeks long. Starts with indoc, followed by sim training, then aircraft training. Everyone is initially trained in the Baron. I thought that training was pretty tough. We have a washout rate of roughly 50%. The main thing people have trouble with is the sim portion.

I can't remember what the hotel we stayed at was called, but it was surprisingly nice. I honestly can't remember how much we were paid for training, but it was enough to buy beer and food.

Anyways, not to sound like a company cheerleader, but I have been there 15 months now, and don't regret my decision to go to AirNet one bit. I still have my job, and am not worried about losing it. Base pay for the props is around 28.5k and the average prop pay is around 38-40k.

 

[Onlyflyfreight]

AirNet has hiring pool right, now. We had one class start with 6 on the 21st of this month. We are interviewing into that pool. Do not know when we will start another class, I have not doubt that we will start soon.

Getting a floater spot should be relative easy, but you just don't know. Guessing on a particular base would just be a guess, so won't guess.

I do belive there is just one A/C in DTW.

Yes there is a training contract. One year and $3000 upfront, I belive.

Right now there is a complete standstill in the Lear. Movement is completely dependent on the expansion promised by management, now that we are private again. Very hard to get any information on that particular subject. We are all waiting here at AirNet.

They are looking for two right now. An extra 12K a year. At the very least they only hire after you have completed training and your 135 check ride.

It can be, but you are mostly limited to extending you rotation in order to achieve that. If the run you are covering have overtime you get paid overtime. I'm not even counting on Pr Diem since it only is $36 and you have to eat something.

Depends on how badly you stink:laugh: Seriously, if your basic instrument skills and knowledge is up to speed you should have no problem getting hired.

I'm sorry to hear about your unemployment!

 

[OUPilot]

I hope it works out for people who want to go to airnet and have 121 exp. I do feel however that it will be difficult for many. 135 freight flying is tough, I have never flown 121, but my friends that left to go 121 say it is much easier and most of the people use the autopilot for everything. You will fly through weather, you will hand fly most of the time, you will push the limits of the a/c, things will be MEL'd, but most imporantly, you will have fun doing it. (Did I mention that you WILL fly through weather) I would like to see how people that got hired on at regionals with 250 hrs and only have regional time perform during the training. I hope it works out great for everyone.

 

[Princedietrich]

Way2 is not only a freight dawg, but he's a (recently unemployed) freight dawg trainer. He should take to Starchecking like a college freshman takes to Natty Light.

If any of the Airnet recruiters or trainers or whatever are following this thread, give these USA Jet guys a shot. They deserve it.

 

[Way2Broke]

• I got the reply to my resume, telling me to fill out the application. I am working on that this afternoon. Prince your name is on there. Actually, I have three names on there, and I could list more. Your real name of course, either way I will be seeing you in the next few weeks.

• I think someone said that they hire into a pool. What determines how they decide who floats and who gets to go to the big kids table?

• I have flown freight in Falcons, Twin Commanders, Lances, Arrows, and Senecas. They all did they job well, but I have never flown freight in a piston that had a autopilot or radar, so that would be a perk. The more experience you get, the more you realize some of the things you did before were just plane crazy.

• Funny thing that you mention Natty Light, because there really isn't to much of a difference between being unemployed and being a Freshman. The women were hotter in my Freshman classes than at the unemployment office. (Besides my fiance who also got the axe, and is looking at AirNet) Besides that, it is exactly the same.

 

[Spoolingbyu]

smoking hole in the ground

I would like to see how people that got hired on at regionals with 250 hrs and only have regional time perform during the training.

they will die

 

[Spoolingbyu]

250 hour wonderbread vs seasoned freight dawg

Way2 is not only a freight dawg, but he's a (recently unemployed) freight dawg trainer. He should take to Starchecking like a college freshman takes to Natty Light.

If any of the Airnet recruiters or trainers or whatever are following this thread, give these USA Jet guys a shot. They deserve it.

Agreed.

These USA Jet guys'll grow on flying checks like a colony of E.Coli on room-temperature Canadian beef.

 

[Way2Broke]

Agreed.

These USA Jet guys'll grow on flying checks like a colony of E.Coli on room-temperature Canadian beef.

Funny thing is, that made me hungry. You mentioned two things I need, a check and food. If you cook it long enough your chances of getting the E.Coli is slim. Calculated risk I guess.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Way2Broke: Good luck getting on there, I enjoyed my time at Airnet and if I got furloughed I'd be there lickety-split. I'm always looking for a good excuse to go back to freight flying. Best time of my life.

 

[FastestPA31Ever]

I second, third, and forth what everyone in this thread has said about Airnet. I am currently only one job removed from my 3 years there, and I think about it often. Great people, great maintenance, good schedules, training, etc...I met many of my best friends there, including one of my groomsmen and the guy who married my wife and I!

One of the biggest benefits of going there (especially for people who are early on in their careers) is how quickly you can get your flight time up. I firmly believe that flying those 3200 odd hours in 3 years helped me get the job I have now at a Fortune 20 company about 10 years sooner than I should have!

You won't regret it!

 

[groundpointsix]

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[wlacy]

I was scheduled for class 8/4, then they pushed it back to 8/18, then cx'd and are "ballparking" a mid-september date. Hopefullly they will call me sooner but I doubt it. Like others have said, there is very little attrition. My opinion is attrition will be in the props as folks lose patience with their upgrade and/or move on to bigger and better things. I'm just anxious to get my feet wet and start flying a baron...

 

[bagasticks]

How are they with part time military pilots?