Air net

[Princedietrich]

• How hard is it to get into APA, and DTW? Can you float until the base you want becomes available?
• Do the props have radars or autopilots (stupid question from my prior experience hauling checks)

• How are upgrades awarded?
• What is the typical progression of a pilot: Baron, Caravan, Lear?
• Does prior jet / bank check / on-demand count for anything when it comes to awarding aircraft / base (insurance requirements) or is is just seniority?
• What is training like?
• What about training pay / accommodations?
• Where is training?
• How much do internals help?

(disclaimer, my info is almost 2 years old. feel free to update or correct)

APA isn't an option right out of the gate, it's a jet-only base. DTW is a prop base and can be a starting option.

Yes they do, but some are better than others. Some are just plain possessed.

When a route/seat is open at a particular base, bid sheets go out (used to be every Thursday). Awarded based on seniority. An example would be route 222 based at AGC in a baron, or reserve lear SIC based at LCK.

typical progression is prop, lear SIC, lear PIC. The van, the baron, and the chief are all considered equal.

It definitely won't hurt.

Training runs about a week or week and a half ground school, 5 sim sessions, 5 flights, transition to a new plane if necessary, and you're off and running.

They put you up in a hotel (it was a candlewood when I did it) and you get paid per diem (it was $150 a week when I did it) during training. As soon as you pass the checkride you go on payroll.

Training is at LCK.

They help A LOT.

 

[Way2Broke]

• Any chance of going straight into the van as a floater or in DTW?
• How big of a base is DTW?
• Is there a training contract?
• How long before I might see the Lear and or APA?
• Do they need instructors and is there any extra money in that?
• Is there a financial benefit to being a floater, and if so what is the down side?
• Do they like stinky freight trash like myself? (if you know me you know I can't type that long without cracking a lame joke)
• I am sure I will have more as the day goes on. Lame jokes and questions that is. I just filed for unemployment, talk about dehumanizing.

 

[hunt234]

• How hard is it to get into APA, and DTW? Can you float until the base you want becomes available?
• Do the props have radars or autopilots (stupid question from my prior experience hauling checks)

• How are upgrades awarded?
• What is the typical progression of a pilot: Baron, Caravan, Lear?
• Does prior jet / bank check / on-demand count for anything when it comes to awarding aircraft / base (insurance requirements) or is is just seniority?
• What is training like?
• What about training pay / accommodations?
• Where is training?
• How much do internals help?

Much of this info you can find on www.airnet.com

Everyone starts in the props. You are then able to upgrade to Lear strictly based on seniority, with the exception that you have to have 2000 hours for insurance. This is rarely a problem however. APA is a jet base, so you can't start there. However you can pick any prop base and float there until a run in that base opens up. Upgrade times seem to mainly rely on the industry. There used to be Lear runs on the bid sheet every week. I haven't seen one now for a few months.

Surprising to many, nearly all of our planes have radar/gps/autopilot. The company is starting to replace the gps's in the Lear with GNS430's.

Training is at LCK. it's 4-5 weeks long. Starts with indoc, followed by sim training, then aircraft training. Everyone is initially trained in the Baron. I thought that training was pretty tough. We have a washout rate of roughly 50%. The main thing people have trouble with is the sim portion.

I can't remember what the hotel we stayed at was called, but it was surprisingly nice. I honestly can't remember how much we were paid for training, but it was enough to buy beer and food.

Anyways, not to sound like a company cheerleader, but I have been there 15 months now, and don't regret my decision to go to AirNet one bit. I still have my job, and am not worried about losing it. Base pay for the props is around 28.5k and the average prop pay is around 38-40k.

 

[Onlyflyfreight]

AirNet has hiring pool right, now. We had one class start with 6 on the 21st of this month. We are interviewing into that pool. Do not know when we will start another class, I have not doubt that we will start soon.

Getting a floater spot should be relative easy, but you just don't know. Guessing on a particular base would just be a guess, so won't guess.

I do belive there is just one A/C in DTW.

Yes there is a training contract. One year and $3000 upfront, I belive.

Right now there is a complete standstill in the Lear. Movement is completely dependent on the expansion promised by management, now that we are private again. Very hard to get any information on that particular subject. We are all waiting here at AirNet.

They are looking for two right now. An extra 12K a year. At the very least they only hire after you have completed training and your 135 check ride.

It can be, but you are mostly limited to extending you rotation in order to achieve that. If the run you are covering have overtime you get paid overtime. I'm not even counting on Pr Diem since it only is $36 and you have to eat something.

Depends on how badly you stink:laugh: Seriously, if your basic instrument skills and knowledge is up to speed you should have no problem getting hired.

I'm sorry to hear about your unemployment!

 

[OUPilot]

I hope it works out for people who want to go to airnet and have 121 exp. I do feel however that it will be difficult for many. 135 freight flying is tough, I have never flown 121, but my friends that left to go 121 say it is much easier and most of the people use the autopilot for everything. You will fly through weather, you will hand fly most of the time, you will push the limits of the a/c, things will be MEL'd, but most imporantly, you will have fun doing it. (Did I mention that you WILL fly through weather) I would like to see how people that got hired on at regionals with 250 hrs and only have regional time perform during the training. I hope it works out great for everyone.

 

[Princedietrich]

Way2 is not only a freight dawg, but he's a (recently unemployed) freight dawg trainer. He should take to Starchecking like a college freshman takes to Natty Light.

If any of the Airnet recruiters or trainers or whatever are following this thread, give these USA Jet guys a shot. They deserve it.

 

[Way2Broke]

• I got the reply to my resume, telling me to fill out the application. I am working on that this afternoon. Prince your name is on there. Actually, I have three names on there, and I could list more. Your real name of course, either way I will be seeing you in the next few weeks.

• I think someone said that they hire into a pool. What determines how they decide who floats and who gets to go to the big kids table?

• I have flown freight in Falcons, Twin Commanders, Lances, Arrows, and Senecas. They all did they job well, but I have never flown freight in a piston that had a autopilot or radar, so that would be a perk. The more experience you get, the more you realize some of the things you did before were just plane crazy.

• Funny thing that you mention Natty Light, because there really isn't to much of a difference between being unemployed and being a Freshman. The women were hotter in my Freshman classes than at the unemployment office. (Besides my fiance who also got the axe, and is looking at AirNet) Besides that, it is exactly the same.

 

[Spoolingbyu]

smoking hole in the ground

I would like to see how people that got hired on at regionals with 250 hrs and only have regional time perform during the training.

they will die

 

[Spoolingbyu]

250 hour wonderbread vs seasoned freight dawg

Way2 is not only a freight dawg, but he's a (recently unemployed) freight dawg trainer. He should take to Starchecking like a college freshman takes to Natty Light.

If any of the Airnet recruiters or trainers or whatever are following this thread, give these USA Jet guys a shot. They deserve it.

Agreed.

These USA Jet guys'll grow on flying checks like a colony of E.Coli on room-temperature Canadian beef.

 

[Way2Broke]

Agreed.

These USA Jet guys'll grow on flying checks like a colony of E.Coli on room-temperature Canadian beef.

Funny thing is, that made me hungry. You mentioned two things I need, a check and food. If you cook it long enough your chances of getting the E.Coli is slim. Calculated risk I guess.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Way2Broke: Good luck getting on there, I enjoyed my time at Airnet and if I got furloughed I'd be there lickety-split. I'm always looking for a good excuse to go back to freight flying. Best time of my life.

 

[FastestPA31Ever]

I second, third, and forth what everyone in this thread has said about Airnet. I am currently only one job removed from my 3 years there, and I think about it often. Great people, great maintenance, good schedules, training, etc...I met many of my best friends there, including one of my groomsmen and the guy who married my wife and I!

One of the biggest benefits of going there (especially for people who are early on in their careers) is how quickly you can get your flight time up. I firmly believe that flying those 3200 odd hours in 3 years helped me get the job I have now at a Fortune 20 company about 10 years sooner than I should have!

You won't regret it!

 

[groundpointsix]

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[wlacy]

I was scheduled for class 8/4, then they pushed it back to 8/18, then cx'd and are "ballparking" a mid-september date. Hopefullly they will call me sooner but I doubt it. Like others have said, there is very little attrition. My opinion is attrition will be in the props as folks lose patience with their upgrade and/or move on to bigger and better things. I'm just anxious to get my feet wet and start flying a baron...

 

[bagasticks]

How are they with part time military pilots?