Am I Just a Giant WIMP?????

[Eagle-ista]

Nah, nobody threw him off, they changed his password so he could not log on....but I guess its about the same? in a real small balls way.

It's true. A close friend of mine was a moderator at *************** when they changed LegacyDriver's password. Then the mods made fun of LD behind his back when he tried to sign in and couldn't get in.

 

[svcta]

L/D, even your last post, having had days to settle down makes me shake my head. For your own benefit you should stop.

I don't know anything about the "other post", but a sincere, man to man apology doesn't erase that kind of thing (if it really was that scathing and public)

I'm not saying that it is the case, but all you're doing is telling everyone how unstable you are. Almost in those exact words. You should really stop.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Scathing, yes. Well, no, not really. Blunt? Definitely, but also the collective sentiment of many. I guess I just was the lightning rod. At the end of the day I was too junior for my argument to have factored in and I realized it is "just business." I disagree with some of the decisions made but that wouldn't have helped me any way. It may have helped guys with more seniority, though, and I'm upset for them still.

Perhaps it is time to retire from message boards. Being a national joke is a cross I am able to bear, but not one I deserve IMHO.

So the question now is... Will a non-flying / non-aviation gig be just as unstable as this industry is?

By my count some 3000 pilots have lost their jobs over the past few months.


Is the grass greener behind a desk?


I'm not unstable...I assure you of that. I simply have a shorter fuse than normal right now. Or did. I'm over it, but a career change is definitely on my agenda.

I felt the need to post this. If it kills my career then I'm at peace with that.

 

[54fighting]

Scathing yes, but also the sentiment of many. I guess I just was the lightning rod. At the end of the day I was too junior for my argument to have factored in and I realized it is "just business."

Perhaps it is time to retire from message boards.

So the question now is... Will a non-flying / non-aviation gig be just as unstable as this industry is?

By my count some 3000 pilots have lost their jobs over the past few months.


Is the grass greener behind a desk?


(I'm not unstable... I just have a shorter fuse than normal right now. Or did. I'm over it, but a career change is definitely on my agenda.)

I think for most if us, this career is a love-hate relationship. It is very unique, in that we are not very portable. I think our hands are tied. Where does a pilot go from outside the cockpit without spending money to go back to school. For most of us on the board, we are going on 15-20 years in this industry. It isn't easy to say, "ok, I am done, I am headed to an an office job.

For me, I get pissed because I seem to always make the wrong decision in this frigging career. I have had about enough.

So what am I doing. Well, I know at my age I am not headed back to school to start in some office for $40k. I have started a home improvement business that I can manage while still flying and keep working hard everyday that hopefully it grows into something bigger. If not, well, I do have a pretty decent gig right now.....but this is definitely time limited. I know I probably won't be able to retire from it.

But I can understand your frustrations. I worked at a very large department that abruptly shut down in 2002. It took me about 6 months to get back on my feet.

 

[LegacyDriver]

I think for most if us, this career is a love-hate relationship. It is very unique, in that we are not very portable. I think our hands are tied. Where does a pilot go from outside the cockpit without spending money to go back to school. For most of us on the board, we are going on 15-20 years in this industry. It isn't easy to say, "ok, I am done, I am headed to an an office job.

For me, I get pissed because I seem to always make the wrong decision in this frigging career. I have had about enough.

So what am I doing. Well, I know at my age I am not headed back to school to start in some office for $40k. I have started a home improvement business that I can manage while still flying and keep working hard everyday that hopefully it grows into something bigger. If not, well, I do have a pretty decent gig right now.....but this is definitely time limited. I know I probably won't be able to retire from it.

But I can understand your frustrations. I worked at a very large department that abruptly shut down in 2002. It took me about 6 months to get back on my feet.

Man you nailed it.

One of my buds in response to my query about what can we do other than fly said, "If I knew that answer I would already be doing it.". Ha ha!

Sorry to hear your tale, but I applaud your effort to try and do something on the side at least.

Maybe I will take this as an opportunity to test the non-flying waters...

 

[svcta]

Every single one of us should make hay while the sun shines and develop some kind of secondary income while we're making money. My friends are buying motorcycles and boats, I bought a rental house. Through that and other endeavors, by the end of this year I plan to be able to lose my job (god forbid, I LOVE my job) and not have to scramble for a job selling lumber.

I'm no smarter or wiser than anyone else, just willing to make temporary sacrifices and hopefully reap the reward. Beyond that, we're all a function of or good or bad decisions. Own them and take control, don't blame it on God.

 

[54fighting]

Through that and other endeavors, by the end of this year I plan to be able to lose my job (god forbid, I LOVE my job) and not have to scramble for a job selling lumber.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that your weren't directing that as a jab towards me???

 

[400A]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that your weren't directing that as a jab towards me???

I think he meant that you can often find out of work pilots working at Home Depot or Lowes.

 

[54fighting]

oh yeah, the orange smock reference, forgot about that one. :0

 

[LegacyDriver]

oh yeah, the orange smock reference, forgot about that one. :0

You guys kill me. I actually considered going over there to the Home Cheapo and applying for a job. LOL

Man ouch.

 

[svcta]

Thanks for the benefit of the doubting. No jabs intended, I assure you!

 

[54fighting]

Yeah, I kinda figured it was a reference that was going completely over my head.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Yeah, I kinda figured it was a reference that was going completely over my head.

Something going over your head 54?
nah..



Hell, with the current market, Im thinking of going into the decking business too.

 

[NCherches]

All I can say about this whole thread is wow...

"If you can't work for one of the largest companies in the world without some hope of career employment then is such a thing even a reality?"

I didn't know one of the largest companies in the world flew Legacy's... if its FLOPS then again - wow...

 

[chperplt]

It's true. A close friend of mine was a moderator at *************** when they changed LegacyDriver's password. Then the mods made fun of LD behind his back when he tried to sign in and couldn't get in.

What's the saying.... People in glass houses.... something or other.

 

[G100driver]

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[Gulfstream 200]

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Bad Bad G100 Driver.......:laugh:

 

[gunfyter]

Are we talking about a company with Falcons moving within TX?

 

[rumrnr78]

Are we talking about a company with Falcons moving within TX?

Yes, we are. Now, I want those who slam LegacyDriver to understand some of his insanity (notice I said some!).

So, you are hired by SBC and told that in the event of SBC buying/merging with other companies that you would not have those people (based on seniority) dropped on top of you. Well, the opposite happened. I have a friend that went from upper teens between himself and the director to the upper thirties! And, while they may say seniority was part of the issue, I assure you it was very important in the whole scheme of things. Plenty of senior people remain who couldn't fly their way out of a wet paper bag! If AT&T knew what was good for them, they would have kept the RJ Mafia!

I am not his alter ego, I was, earlier, busting his chops via the blackberry! And he took it well and I am glad we are friends.

Ask yourself this, "disregarding LD's previous posts and rants, if 20+ pilots were dropped on top of you and the chopping begins, how would you feel?"

Cheers- Rum

 

[LegacyDriver]

Yay rum!

Here's yer ten year rollerboard now pack yo sh#t.

That was classic.

Gawd.... Where's the K-Y??

Touhey didn't leave marks like this!