Benefits of a Merger for a Delta Pilot

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[Speedbird34]

We are all about to be Delta Pilots and to preach that you should be treated differently is pretty short sighted. Lets hope for the the best deal we can get ALL get. We'll see. Oh and please use spell check, it will cover up your lack of the ability to spell words.

LOA 19 what is that?
You said seniority is forever and we have to fight to protect it. LOA19 is already almost gone to be replaced by something else.

I would like to preserve my quality of life! The so call gains from a merger can disappear in a blink of an eye or may never even come to pass.
The benefits of merging with Northwest may just be a sham for all I know. Lots of variables involved.

I want something I can hold unto if this thing falls apart.

You at least have your 40% and many other things. What do I get?

You say I got LOA19 and it never even went into effect. The equity is now going to be shared by everyone of us excellent but what does a Delta pilot get. This all seems one sided to me as regards the goodies etc.

Well it is a difficult question with no answer because the truth is the Delta guy only gets a headache from this merger and gloomy prospects for his future.:crying:

 

[Speedbird34]

We are all about to be Delta Pilots and to preach that you should be treated differently is pretty short sighted. Lets hope for the the best deal we can get ALL get. We'll see. Oh and please use spell check, it will cover up your lack of the ability to spell words.

Hello superpilot you may end up as number 1 at Delta our youngest new hire pilot is 27 years old.

I envy you and way to go. It is quite an achievement getting to Delta so young. Our young pilots are some of the most outstanding individuals I have ever met. You will love this company. If this merger fails by any chance I would suggest you leave and come here! It is a really nice place to work! Love my Airline and its employees.
I know you can make it in through the front door!
How many of your pilots are not college educated apart from Occam. :laugh:
Hey just giving you guys a hard time I have to find some humor in this mess you know and next week when things clear up and I find out my MEC protected my future as I expect I will be nicer.
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[Superpilot92]

Just teasing you Superpilot by calling you son. Have I found the chink in your armor!!No not really, unless its a bad thing to be "young" and in my position?
True to type there you go supporting Occam.Your insults towards Occam were childish and against your belief Occams insight is respected by many on both the DAL and NWA sides. I am sure he is laughing at the fact that he for one reason or another gets under your skin. That is loyality. I have no regrets about my statements towards Occam. He began it by hurling insults. By insults do you mean a level headed and witty responce?
I am not pro merger, never will be and I still do not see what the benefit is for me You have made it evident that you feel this only about YOU! You want to call that childish have fun. But I assure you I am not the only Delta pilot who feels this merger is a windfall for the Northwest side. Considering the state of the industry i hope we can agree its nice to be seeing +'s instead of -'s in our COMBINED contractual gains, right?
We will try to make the best of it. But save the insults for those who care! Again as I said I like youAhh now i am blushing :blush: !!
I am not getting a spell checker you guys seem to figure out what I am saying. Flight info is not worth the trouble.
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I have a hard time seeing a benefit for me as a Delta Pilot apart from the statement that the roof is falling and it will after I am laid off for a few years provide me a better company to get recall.
Any opinions are welcomed !! Enlighting me as to my bright future in a new Delta.
Also the Northwest guys get pay raises, equity and our DC program. The SLI does not give the Delta pilots an advantage.
So I see a Airline with smiling northwest pilots and Delta pilots just dreading losing their quality of life.:beer:

After 4 pages... . you Sir, are correct.

 

[Superpilot92]

Hello superpilot you may end up as number 1 at Delta our youngest new hire pilot is 27 years old. I know a guy who I think is 26 at DAL. He was hired at DAL the same month i was so it depends on the SLI how that works out. Also there are 3 people senior to me here at NWA that are barely younger than i am. So number 1 might not be achievable

I envy you and way to go. It is quite an achievement getting to Delta so young. Our young pilots are some of the most outstanding individuals I have ever met. You will love this companyWE will love this company. If this merger fails by any chance I would suggest you leave and come here! It is a really nice place to work! Love my Airline and its employees.
I know you can make it in through the front door!
How many of your pilots are not college educated. Everyone i know here has a degree. It was a requirement to get the interview.
Hey just giving you guys a hard time I have to find some humor in this mess you know and next week when things clear up and I find out my MEC protected my future as I expect I will be nicer.
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In the long run this will be a good deal for all i am sure. Relax it could be ALOT worse, see the rest of the industry right now. This combination of our airlines might enable us to buck the trend. Fingers crossed.

 

[Speedbird34]

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Occam maybe a flightinfo Hero or villian depending on your point of veiw. Nobody at Delta airlines knows him or cares about his opinion. He is just another faceless, nameless guy on flight info to me and many others.

This is not the real world folks just a place for fantasy and remarks made safely from behind a mask. As the General Lee says " have fun on flight info"

Just began this trend to feel the heat and remind our fantasy world resident that Delta pilots deserve compensation for the merger. We bring most of the goodies to the table. In my opinion way more than Northwest.

The only thing that I see Northwest bringing to the table is some route authority in Narita and B747 which most pilots at Delta will never get to fly during their career.
Also I guess the biggest contribution is its already trained pilots ready to help us with our International expansion. Wish you guys goodluck learning to fly into exotic destinations around the world. A little bit different from the visual into Minot:laugh: But you guys are costing us an arm and a leg.

And I may even have to give up my job. Hell no fella's go fix your own Airline in that case and leave us alone. We are having fun here right now.

I do not feel this is a merger amoung equals. Delta is just being nice making an aquisition look like a merger.

While I understand the merger needs to be fair. I have no desire to see us go overboard with this process by selling our pilots down the river.
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[Speedbird34]

Northwest does not have a hard entry requirement for a college degree. I personally know a Northwest pilot without a degree. Not that it really matters in some cases other things in life could make up for the lack of a degree.
Just giving you guys a hard time. Get use to it if we merge we are always going to be watching our new pilots from Northwest with some interest.

And here that includes the captains. No captain god mentality here at Delta. We have a unique flight deck culture which you will find enjoyable and I hope we preserve.

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[andyd]

Wish you guys goodluck learning to fly into exotic destinations around the world. A little bit different from the visual into Minot:laugh: But you guys are costing us an arm and a leg.

And I may even have to give up my job. Hell no fella's go fix your own Airline in that case and leave us alone. We are having fun here right now.

I do not feel this is a merger amoung equals. Delta is just being nice making an aquisition look like a merger.

Dude, you're starting to sound like a real tool and giving the rest of us DAL guys/gals a bad name...I'm sure any NWA stick can fly into our "exotic" destinations just as proficiently as you can. How bout bucking up a bit and taking this merger like a man instead of whining on here like your entitled to something and "oh, my career expectations"....we work in the AIRLINE INDUSTRY....there are ZERO expectations we can take to the bank 20 years from now....get used to it or get out NOW.

 

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[wings421]

Hello superpilot you may end up as number 1 at Delta our youngest new hire pilot is 27 years old.

Not quite true. Anyone younger than 25 at NWA? I might have to kill them...

 

[Speedbird34]

Dude, you're starting to sound like a real tool and giving the rest of us DAL guys/gals a bad name...I'm sure any NWA stick can fly into our "exotic" destinations just as proficiently as you can. How bout bucking up a bit and taking this merger like a man instead of whining on here like your entitled to something and "oh, my career expectations"....we work in the AIRLINE INDUSTRY....there are ZERO expectations we can take to the bank 20 years from now....get used to it or get out NOW.

Just having some fun Andyd. I know they can it is not that difficult!!:laugh: they are excellent pilots I fly on their aircrafts and worked in their system.

fantasy man! We are too nice at Delta you would not even let me tease the new guys on the block.

Well I am having myself some fun! they are big boys and gals let them stand up for themselves. I am getting some grief myself from them:laugh: :laugh:

 

[Speedbird34]

Not quite true. Anyone younger than 25 at NWA? I might have to kill them...

Hello boss.

Need a hitman.

Telephone: 1800-1HITMAN

Sorry superpilot maybe the top 10 pilots some day.

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[Speedbird34]

Alright folks time to close the thread. Good luck and for the record Northwest has great guys and gals!!

 

[cq43vt17t]

Hello superpilot you may end up as number 1 at Delta our youngest new hire pilot is 27 years old.
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Superpilot.... Speedbird is almost right. Congrats on getting on at such a young age.

DAL currently has 2 retirements in 2046, 2 retirements in 2047, and 1 in 2048 all scheduled for age 65.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Just having some fun Andyd. I know they can it is not that difficult!!:laugh: they are excellent pilots I fly on their aircrafts and worked in their system.

fantasy man! We are too nice at Delta you would not even let me tease the new guys on the block.

Well I am having myself some fun! they are big boys and gals let them stand up for themselves. I am getting some grief myself from them:laugh: :laugh:

Jesus Christ, are you actually drunk at 9 in the morning?? Spelling isn't your strong suit, you say? Neither is grammar, intellect, or the ability to make a sensible argument apparently.

Frankly, you made better sense on the thread where you were calling everyone who dared respond to you a racist.

There are good arguments to be made against this merger from a pilot's perspective. You haven't made them. You sound like a whining child.

 

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Whining child or not, he has made a legitimate point.

The NWA pilots, particularly the junior pilots are getting a windfall. He's looking for equity, or fairness, and not finding any. Nobody has answered his question... we've talked around it.

 

[Speedbird34]

Jesus Christ, are you actually drunk at 9 in the morning?? Spelling isn't your strong suit, you say? Neither is grammar, intellect, or the ability to make a sensible argument apparently.

Frankly, you made better sense on the thread where you were calling everyone who dared respond to you a racist.

There are good arguments to be made against this merger from a pilot's perspective. You haven't made them. You sound like a whining child.

You are trying to change the topic

Stop trying to play the race card. As always I always see a fool who wants to get sympathy by painting me as the angry black guy.

What a loser! Do you think I am ashamed of being black or angry at white folks?. I admire white folks and believe they are amazing! As a race most likely the most developed in the world. What an Idoit. This thread is about a simple question about benefits of a merger. No one mentioned race.

It must be your personal trait to resort to insults if someone does not agree with your veiw. I dislike your type of person always trying to use race as a weapon. You may consider me lacking in intellect but you are the one who lacks brain cells.:laugh:

STOP TRYING TO PAINT ME AS AN ANGRY BLACK MAN BECAUSE I EXPRESS A VEIW YOU DISAGREE WITH IT SHOWS YOU FOR THE PERSON YOU ARE

Well the thread had a simple question and was just looking for a honest reply and having some fun.
:laugh:
I am just trying to keep everyone honest. Get over yourself. Your past posts do not show you as having more than the intellect of a stone. You spend too much of your boring life on flightinfo. Go and get yourself a drink. I think you need it and leave race out of this thread.

 

[Superpilot92]

Not quite true. Anyone younger than 25 at NWA? I might have to kill them...

When were you hired?

Superpilot.... Speedbird is almost right. Congrats on getting on at such a young age.

DAL currently has 2 retirements in 2046, 2 retirements in 2047, and 1 in 2048 all scheduled for age 65.

Thanks i have been fortunate so far and look forward to what this new airline has coming regardless of how it plays out. :beer: I figure that its time to focus on the positives in all this and for me I see no point in getting bent out of shape about something i have no control over anyway. Thanks again for the kind words.

 

[nonstop]

Whining child or not, he has made a legitimate point.

The NWA pilots, particularly the junior pilots are getting a windfall. He's looking for equity, or fairness, and not finding any. Nobody has answered his question... we've talked around it.

No ones answered his question because he's obviously a raving lunatic. I'd believe that's actually a NWA pilot behind that screen name trying to make DAL pilots look bad before I believe it's an actual DAL pilot. If that was a mascarading NWA pilot I'd be on here posting to tell him to STFU before rah-rah'ing him on.

You know it's funny, you need to realize there are differences in perspective and not everyone feels the same as you. As a junior NWA pilot I'd MUCH rather assume DAL and NWA go on their marry way as sucessful indepentand companies. There's a beautiful thing I've come to love after a decade in the airlines called attrition. No matter what arbitrary age you pick we have more of that sooner at NWA than any other airline in the world. Yes DAL pay happens to be better today, it hasn't always been and it probably wouldn't always be if we remained independent. Just like NWA may not always have superior scope and work rules. Things change, lecagy contracts will rise and fall with the changes in our economy.

Fact is we're both going to get screwed in this merger, if this is truely fair. There's a lot of things we're not happy about on both sides. However, if you believe your MEC this may actually be a beneficial thing for pilots on both sides both in the short and long run.

This board can be fun, even occasionally informative. The same 5 people spamming the boards with basically the exact same post for 4 months straight like it might actually alter the outcome of events gets really tiring. Grow up, get over it. We understand you're not happy, you're not garnering any sympathy and definitely not any respect by belly aching every day of the week because life events aren't unfolding exactly to your expectations.

 

[General Lee]

No ones answered his question because he's obviously a raving lunatic. I'd believe that's actually a NWA pilot behind that screen name trying to make DAL pilots look bad before I believe it's an actual DAL pilot. If that was a mascarading NWA pilot I'd be on here posting to tell him to STFU before rah-rah'ing him on.

You know it's funny, you need to realize there are differences in perspective and not everyone feels the same as you. As a junior NWA pilot I'd MUCH rather assume DAL and NWA go on their marry way as sucessful indepentand companies. There's a beautiful thing I've come to love after a decade in the airlines called attrition. No matter what arbitrary age you pick we have more of that sooner at NWA than any other airline in the world. Yes DAL pay happens to be better today, it hasn't always been and it probably wouldn't always be if we remained independent. Just like NWA may not always have superior scope and work rules. Things change, lecagy contracts will rise and fall with the changes in our economy.

Fact is we're both going to get screwed in this merger, if this is truely fair. There's a lot of things we're not happy about on both sides. However, if you believe your MEC this may actually be a beneficial thing for pilots on both sides both in the short and long run.

This board can be fun, even occasionally informative. The same 5 people spamming the boards with basically the exact same post for 4 months straight like it might actually alter the outcome of events gets really tiring. Grow up, get over it. We understand you're not happy, you're not garnering any sympathy and definitely not any respect by belly aching every day of the week because life events aren't unfolding exactly to your expectations.

We have just as much attrition as you do, except about 5 years after you do. So, you will benefit from that TWICE.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Speedbird34]

No ones answered his question because he's obviously a raving lunatic. I'd believe that's actually a NWA pilot behind that screen name trying to make DAL pilots look bad before I believe it's an actual DAL pilot. If that was a mascarading NWA pilot I'd be on here posting to tell him to STFU before rah-rah'ing him on.

You know it's funny, you need to realize there are differences in perspective and not everyone feels the same as you. As a junior NWA pilot I'd MUCH rather assume DAL and NWA go on their marry way as sucessful indepentand companies. There's a beautiful thing I've come to love after a decade in the airlines called attrition. No matter what arbitrary age you pick we have more of that sooner at NWA than any other airline in the world. Yes DAL pay happens to be better today, it hasn't always been and it probably wouldn't always be if we remained independent. Just like NWA may not always have superior scope and work rules. Things change, lecagy contracts will rise and fall with the changes in our economy.

Fact is we're both going to get screwed in this merger, if this is truely fair. There's a lot of things we're not happy about on both sides. However, if you believe your MEC this may actually be a beneficial thing for pilots on both sides both in the short and long run.

This board can be fun, even occasionally informative. The same 5 people spamming the boards with basically the exact same post for 4 months straight like it might actually alter the outcome of events gets really tiring. Grow up, get over it. We understand you're not happy, you're not garnering any sympathy and definitely not any respect by belly aching every day of the week because life events aren't unfolding exactly to your expectations.

The reason your not complaining is because you are looking at a huge pay increase. What do you make now about $30 an hour with limited benefits. How are the displacements going?

Looking at getting laid off as soon as the DC 9 begin getting parked. Give me a break and save the description of lunatic for how you would look at an unemployment line without a merger.

Most likely without a merger would have never gotten to share a flight deck with the calibre of people you are about to meet at Delta.

Wonder what kind of people Northwest is hiring. If I present an alternative opinion I am Insane. Do you guys run a Psych evaluation on newhires.

Attrition my rear end. You are already looking at hitting the street and it has not even being a year since you were hired.

Your welcomed as the General would say and you are suppose to say thank you:laugh:

 

[FmrFreightDog]

You are trying to change the topic

Stop trying to play the race card. As always I always see a fool who wants to get sympathy by painting me as the angry black guy.

What a loser! Do you think I am ashamed of being black or angry at white folks?. I admire white folks and believe they are amazing! As a race most likely the most developed in the world. What an Idoit. This thread is about a simple question about benefits of a merger. No one mentioned race.

It must be your personal trait to resort to insults if someone does not agree with your veiw. I dislike your type of person always trying to use race as a weapon. You may consider me lacking in intellect but you are the one who lacks brain cells.:laugh:

STOP TRYING TO PAINT ME AS AN ANGRY BLACK MAN BECAUSE I EXPRESS A VEIW YOU DISAGREE WITH IT SHOWS YOU FOR THE PERSON YOU ARE

Well the thread had a simple question and was just looking for a honest reply and having some fun.
:laugh:
I am just trying to keep everyone honest. Get over yourself. Your past posts do not show you as having more than the intellect of a stone. You spend too much of your boring life on flightinfo. Go and get yourself a drink. I think you need it and leave race out of this thread.

The only thing I was trying to "paint" you as was someone with a history of posting totally nonsensical, rambling drivel.

Thank you for proving my point so effectively with this post.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Most likely without a merger would have never gotten to share a flight deck with the calibre of people you are about to meet at Delta.

Wonder what kind of people Northwest is hiring. If I present an alternative opinion I am Insane. Do you guys run a Psych evaluation on newhires.

Are you honestly trying to say that Northwest pilots are personally and professionally inferior when compared with Delta pilots? Are you actually saying that?

Any of you Delta guys actually want to claim this fool as one of your own?

 

[Speedbird34]

Are you honestly trying to say that Northwest pilots are personally and professionally inferior when compared with Delta pilots? Are you actually saying that?

Any of you Delta guys actually want to claim this fool as one of your own?

You are the fool FmrFreightDog. The merger is going to drag scum like you unto our Airline:laugh:

 

[Speedbird34]

Are you honestly trying to say that Northwest pilots are personally and professionally inferior when compared with Delta pilots? Are you actually saying that?

Any of you Delta guys actually want to claim this fool as one of your own?

Northwest has excellent pilots but dregs like you do slip through the cracks. We have a better process of selection.
That is what I am saying!!:uzi:

 

[Speedbird34]

Are you honestly trying to say that Northwest pilots are personally and professionally inferior when compared with Delta pilots? Are you actually saying that?

Any of you Delta guys actually want to claim this fool as one of your own?

Talking to you is like talking to a stone. No brain cells.
:laugh: :laugh:

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Talking to you is like talking to a stone. No brain cells.
:laugh: :laugh:

And talking to you is like talking to a New York City cab driver. Senselessly belligerent with an exceptionally poor command of the English language.

I'm done wasting my time with you.

 

[General Lee]

The reason your not complaining is because you are looking at a huge pay increase. What do you make now about $30 an hour with limited benefits. How are the displacements going?

Looking at getting laid off as soon as the DC 9 begin getting parked. Give me a break and save the description of lunatic for how you would look at an unemployment line without a merger.

Most likely without a merger would have never gotten to share a flight deck with the calibre of people you are about to meet at Delta.

Wonder what kind of people Northwest is hiring. If I present an alternative opinion I am Insane. Do you guys run a Psych evaluation on newhires.

Attrition my rear end. You are already looking at hitting the street and it has not even being a year since you were hired.

Your welcomed as the General would say and you are suppose to say thank you:laugh:

Come on man. Everyone loves the banter and all, but ease up on the quality of hiring. I am sure they do a great job too. Ease up a bit.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Speedbird34]

Come on man. Everyone loves the banter and all, but ease up on the quality of hiring. I am sure they do a great job too. Ease up a bit.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

Yes General Lee!!!