Continental to Furlough

[Cpt Oveur]

Straight from someone high in flight ops management, confirmed by CN of recruiting: 100-500 on seniority list to be furloughed. Final number is based on many factors, could be related to system bid and second quarter results, and early retirements.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

It is a sad day...

 

[Uniform Shop]

With a net loss of 31 aircraft I don't see anymore than 300 furloughs but what do I know? As you can see from my avatar I've been wrong in the past. :nuts:

 

[~~~^~~~]

Sucks... sorry. Hopefully bad intel.

 

[BeachBummer]

I hear a buy out from above... death and distruction.. you'll lose your pension... uhhhhh... wait yea I'll retire...

 

[CAL EWR B737]

Straight from someone high in flight ops management, confirmed by CN of recruiting: 100-500 on seniority list to be furloughed. Final number is based on many factors, could be related to system bid and second quarter results, and early retirements.

Come on of course management is going to play this up to the max we are in contract negotiations and just pulled off two major picketing events.

We may furlough but don't believe anything management says, you know they are lying when their lips are moving.

Watch the video's below and chill out.
www.theloanisdue.com

 

[FlyWolf]

All the best guys, I know a guy who left Midwest not too long ago for Continental and a lot of guys from my previous commuter job there, I wish you all the best.

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

Good Luck, CAL folks.

 

[AWACoff]

Cripes, we're so over staffed that scheduling is JUNIOR MANNING in ewr today. We had better start furloughing quick!

 

[GogglesPisano]

Too bad they can't furlough from the top of the list.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

One of the my buds over there told me that they need 200 one way or another. He was not sure if they were going to offer early outs or not. Sucks for all hired after Nov. of last year.

 

[SuperFLUF]

With a net loss of 31 aircraft I don't see anymore than 300 furloughs but what do I know? As you can see from my avatar I've been wrong in the past. :nuts:

Airframe reductions only tell part of the story.

The block hour reductions on the remaining aircraft will dictate staffing and thus reductions.

The main line capacity reduction is going to be 9.1% by the end of the year.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/seccapsule/seccapsule.asp?m=f&c=85779&fid=5739905&dc=


So I would suspect that managment will want to try to furlough somewhere around 9.1% of the pilots. That would put the number around 461, which is pretty close to the 450 number that's been floating around.

 

[SuperFLUF]

Cripes, we're so over staffed that scheduling is JUNIOR MANNING in ewr today. We had better start furloughing quick!

JR manning sucks, this whole situation sucks. But.

They've known they were going to furlough since before the last system bid was cancelled. Would you rather the company have hired a hundred more guys this spring so that they could be furloughed in the fall?

 

[zonker]

These are rumors, not facts.

Period.

 

[whatitdoing?]

Ya, my friend's dad's golfing buddy said he talked to Kelner's gay lover's bowling partner who's wife mentioned to her dog 'fido' that for sure....there was going to be a furlough. I also heard this rumor from a very very very high up individual in the ramper's room in EWR. TOP SECRET.....morons...

 

[say again]

Ya, my friend's dad's golfing buddy said he talked to Kelner's gay lover's bowling partner who's wife mentioned to her dog 'fido' that for sure....there was going to be a furlough. I also heard this rumor from a very very very high up individual in the ramper's room in EWR. TOP SECRET.....morons...

So it is true!! Damn it.:laugh:

 

[AWACoff]

Well I heard it last night from 2 members of the MEC during the GUM union meeting at the Hilton. Call it a rumor all you want but the MEC is 100% on board with it.

This is what we were told last night. Early out packages/COLAs/etc. to be announced next week. The July bid has been postponed until August. The first round of furloughs (assuming nobody takes an early out/COLA/etc.) would be in September with more in October and November if warranted. GUM base to be reduced in size. The numbers for the GUM base reduction were all over the place ranging from 3-6 captains and 6-12 FOs.

 

[densoo]

He was not sure if they were going to offer early outs or not.

I think they did. The offer was pretty much if you want to get out early, no one's stopping you.

 

[SuperFLUF]

I think they did. The offer was pretty much if you want to get out early, no one's stopping you.

There will be something more offered for pilot early outs (over and above the company wide offer) but don't expect it to be enough to entice anyone to leave early.

The best opportunity to mitigate furloughs is during contract negotiations. (when furloughs are not looming) A mandatory cap on the line production average of 5-10 hours lower than normal when any pilot is on furlough would help significantly. The company probably would not agree to that now and even if they did I doubt it would pass as an LOA right now. That's why it needs to be part of contract so that those who don't care about the furloughs won't shoot it down.

If you're in the bottom 500 at CAL start working a back up plan. Hopefully we can do something to keep that number as low as possible but don't count on it.

 

[airlinepilot]

Just curious....what would the DOH of the 500th guy or gal be?

 

[deceptibum]

500th pilot would be a late FEB 2007 hire

 

[mamba20]

Guys, SHUT THE ******************** UP!!! None of what your saying is based on FACT, not a word of it! We are in contract negotiations for christs sake! Nothing but rumors and fear are being thrown around. Stop ********************ing spreading it! wait and see what happens and for the love of god stop posting what you heard from someone in a "high up position". None of what you have heard is based on fact!!!! STOP IT!!!! If this is how the rest of our time during contract talks is going to go, then we might as well say yes ******************** us in the ass with POS '08!!!!

My god. . . . ********************ing idiots!

 

[say again]

Leave Britney alone!!!

 

[relief tube]

Too bad they can't furlough from the top of the list.

I hope there's not too many old geezers sticking on after 60 just so they can tie another boat to the dock. Hope they think about someone but themselves.

 

[kingairip]

I hope there's not too many old geezers sticking on after 60 just so they can tie another boat to the dock. Hope they think about someone but themselves.

Not gonna happen...

 

[Kugelblitz]

I just got an 0200 phone call from crew scheduling attempting to junior man me last night (06/15). Hopefully we had no whores answering that call.......

 

[pianoman]

I just got an 0200 phone call from crew scheduling attempting to junior man me last night (06/15). Hopefully we had no whores answering that call.......

Amazingly, some dumb a@@ always does. I watch trips in open time and they get crewed one way or another. On the 777, they sure aren't pulling guys as they arrive at the gate. These idiots are either answering their phones or looking at the computer trying to boost their already obscene line values.

I'm 550 or so from the bottom hoping it doesn't cut that deep. That said, I'd rather get furloughed and have a good contract to come back to than be saved by the pilots caving.

 

[RSixer]

I'm 550 or so from the bottom hoping it doesn't cut that deep. That said, I'd rather get furloughed and have a good contract to come back to than be saved by the pilots caving.

Amen to That!

Cal is going to furlough, but still every day we still operate under min reserve coverage. With a few exceptions all these routes being cancelled are seasonal or Express. A couple hundred guys have been hired since age 65 passed, boy that amount sounds familiar. CAL has been planning to park the 737-500-300's for years now anyway. Put a spin on all that in a official newsletter and let the Press get a hold of it, and look at the effect it has. Like I said before Im not buying this BS, and the furloughs... I believe it when I see it.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

thanks to Prater and the rest of his goons we can thank ALPA, Congress and oh yes our age 60+ pilots too. Thanks guys...sorry to hear about the furloughs so much for "takin it back." Best of luck to everyone.

 

[Scrapdog]

Amazingly, some dumb a@@ always does. I watch trips in open time and they get crewed one way or another. On the 777, they sure aren't pulling guys as they arrive at the gate. These idiots are either answering their phones or looking at the computer trying to boost their already obscene line values.

I'm 550 or so from the bottom hoping it doesn't cut that deep. That said, I'd rather get furloughed and have a good contract to come back to than be saved by the pilots caving.

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Piano - what's your DOH? I'm Dec '06 and have about 650 below me.