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Well guys back to hustling blowjobs at the street corner........

I think I will look good in a red wig.
 
I don't know, with all of the nonsense the the union is NOT putting out, they better be close to offsetting all of the furloughs. I wouldn't bet the farm yet. If, on the other hand, it still comes down to 500 or so, please get your voices known and recall everyone that voted in the 65 crap. That would be everyone on the current MEC. They essentially traded your job for the worst piece of sh!t's on the planet. They should AT THE LEAST be thrown out with a vengeance. But if they do offset all if not most furloughs, it might not be that bad. Maybe a 6 month vacation for some with their family, and a quick return (hopefully) If they even wanted to return, I bet some wouldn't.
 
AWACoff said:
Cripes, we're so over staffed that scheduling is JUNIOR MANNING in ewr today. We had better start furloughing quick!
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Yeah I got the call at 23:53 two nights ago! This was after flying for the last five. My wife said the exact same thing.

Scheduling left me a message saying they were junior manning me for the 15th and to please call them back as soon as I get the message. I better call soon!
 
Jonny Sacko said:
If, on the other hand, it still comes down to 500 or so, please get your voices known and recall everyone that voted in the 65 crap. That would be everyone on the current MEC. They essentially traded your job for the worst piece of sh!t's on the planet. They should AT THE LEAST be thrown out with a vengeance.
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The single recallable CALALPA member that wanted 65 to pass DID get recalled...and it WAS with a vengeance!! Former MEC chair TD: GONE!! We're all much better off with him out of office. Too bad we couldn't throw him out of the union.

The next to go might have to be Prater. He got closer to being thrown out than you might think at the last EB meeting.
 
What is up with all this Hoopla?

There is a lot of "D0uche-baggery" going on right now with rumors upon rumors and quite frankly I'm sick of it.

You people who perpetrate this propaganda about furloughs are helping management with their negotiations on CALs contract.

Believe it or not, but if CAL gets another $hitty contract, it only hurts every single other airline pilot out there. If CAL doesn't raise the bar, it will be that much harder when it's airline XXs turn to negotiate. So don't do managements job for them and be optimistic about things or try and come up with alternative solutions to offer up to any furloughs.

I know CAL is no SWA, but from what I understand, in ~30 years of operations, not one pilot has ever been furloughed from SWA (correct me if I'm wrong). This is the kind of propaganda that needs to be sent out. Other information that would be good to emphasize is how many BS awards CAL has won in the past 3 years. If CAL is such a great place to work(hence the awards), then why is the company not doing everything in their power to save employees jobs?

So, bottom line, until we see CAL guys/gals with letters in the mail (which doesn't mean $hit by itself) and have been called on the phone that they shouldn't come to work on Sept 5, please STFU and help out your fellow pilots and airline employees.

Have a nice day :)
 
Oh and BTW, I flew with two separate Houston Captains on my trip this week because there weren't enough Captains in EWR to cover reserve. I asked the two captains I flew with if this is "std" summer ops and both said they have never flown mixed base pilot crews in about 10 years at CAL.

I'm sure it happens, maybe even a lot to reserve guys, but it's definitely a sign that manning blows.
 
mamba20 said:
Guys, SHUT THE ******************** UP!!! None of what your saying is based on FACT, not a word of it! We are in contract negotiations for christs sake! Nothing but rumors and fear are being thrown around. Stop ********************ing spreading it! wait and see what happens and for the love of god stop posting what you heard from someone in a "high up position". None of what you have heard is based on fact!!!! STOP IT!!!! If this is how the rest of our time during contract talks is going to go, then we might as well say yes ******************** us in the ass with POS '08!!!!

My god. . . . ********************ing idiots!
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Well said.
 
justin15e said:
What is up with all this Hoopla?

There is a lot of "D0uche-baggery" going on right now with rumors upon rumors and quite frankly I'm sick of it.

You people who perpetrate this propaganda about furloughs are helping management with their negotiations on CALs contract.

Believe it or not, but if CAL gets another $hitty contract, it only hurts every single other airline pilot out there. If CAL doesn't raise the bar, it will be that much harder when it's airline XXs turn to negotiate. So don't do managements job for them and be optimistic about things or try and come up with alternative solutions to offer up to any furloughs.

I know CAL is no SWA, but from what I understand, in ~30 years of operations, not one pilot has ever been furloughed from SWA (correct me if I'm wrong). This is the kind of propaganda that needs to be sent out. Other information that would be good to emphasize is how many BS awards CAL has won in the past 3 years. If CAL is such a great place to work(hence the awards), then why is the company not doing everything in their power to save employees jobs?

So, bottom line, until we see CAL guys/gals with letters in the mail (which doesn't mean $hit by itself) and have been called on the phone that they shouldn't come to work on Sept 5, please STFU and help out your fellow pilots and airline employees.

Have a nice day :)
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well said and ditto. speculation helps no one but the enemy.
 
AWACoff said:
Cripes, we're so over staffed that scheduling is JUNIOR MANNING in ewr today. We had better start furloughing quick!
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I am not a rocket scientist but didn't CAL announce their capacity cutbacks for September 2008 and beyond. How does June 2008 staffing have anything to do with how many pilots will be required to fly CAL's airplanes after September 2008?

If you are so savvy on staffing levels, maybe you should help out your crew planning department, I am sure they are working some overtime right now trying to figure out the fall staffing model.
 
maxblast72 said:
I am not a rocket scientist but didn't CAL announce their capacity cutbacks for September 2008 and beyond. How does June 2008 staffing have anything to do with how many pilots will be required to fly CAL's airplanes after September 2008?

If you are so savvy on staffing levels, maybe you should help out your crew planning department, I am sure they are working some overtime right now trying to figure out the fall staffing model.
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He's saying if CAL is so understaffed right now, come Sept they have an opportunity to be properly staffed.

If they layoff in the fall, they have a potential to be right back to where they are now.

From what I read, it seems that CAL always works on a shoe-string staffing model.
 
BigMeat said:
Well guys back to hustling blowjobs at the street corner........

I think I will look good in a red wig.
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Furloughs are no laughing matter. A lot of kids could go hungry and a lot of lives will be very hard. I'm glad that it's such a joke to you.

At least it's probably very easy to get a better paying job than a CAL pilot. Plus you can probably get health benefits too.

Starbucks offers health benefits to people without a college degree, much less an ATP. What is wrong with this picture?
 
Pocono Pilot said:
Furloughs are no laughing matter. A lot of kids could go hungry and a lot of lives will be very hard. I'm glad that it's such a joke to you.

At least it's probably very easy to get a better paying job than a CAL pilot. Plus you can probably get health benefits too.

Starbucks offers health benefits to people without a college degree, much less an ATP. What is wrong with this picture?
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All you can do is laugh (and vote no).

You are right. I can get a job paying better than CAL (reference my previous post).

I fully agree with the starbucks thing. I know they didnt have to wait 6 months for their health benefits!

Now when are you getting downgraded?
 
Flopgut said:
The single recallable CALALPA member that wanted 65 to pass DID get recalled...and it WAS with a vengeance!! Former MEC chair TD: GONE!! We're all much better off with him out of office. Too bad we couldn't throw him out of the union.

The next to go might have to be Prater. He got closer to being thrown out than you might think at the last EB meeting.
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Incorrect I'm very sorry to say. Almost every person in CAL ALPA voted to send the Snake-less to the smoke and mirror meeting with chunky, with the message "Hey Tommy, we know you'll do the RIGHT thing, we give you NO direction, even though the majority of pilots say NO CHANGE. All voted to send him with a yes vote. Pathetic. If I am on the chopping block, I will do everything I can do remove those short sided, self serving idiots out before I go.
 
Pocono Pilot said:
Furloughs are no laughing matter. A lot of kids could go hungry and a lot of lives will be very hard. I'm glad that it's such a joke to you.

At least it's probably very easy to get a better paying job than a CAL pilot. Plus you can probably get health benefits too.

Starbucks offers health benefits to people without a college degree, much less an ATP. What is wrong with this picture?
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I bet you're really glad that you turned down the CAL job offer now.
 
mule said:
Please elaborate...
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Can't too much. His recall resolution is on standby.

His Crewpass effort should be taking a backseat to helping the broader membership. Additionally, the EB is NOT happy about USAir. Basically: he was told to get his head out of his butt and do better for the ENTIRE union. He will, or he WILL GO!
 
Jonny Sacko said:
Incorrect I'm very sorry to say. Almost every person in CAL ALPA voted to send the Snake-less to the smoke and mirror meeting with chunky, with the message "Hey Tommy, we know you'll do the RIGHT thing, we give you NO direction, even though the majority of pilots say NO CHANGE. All voted to send him with a yes vote. Pathetic. If I am on the chopping block, I will do everything I can do remove those short sided, self serving idiots out before I go.
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The MEC gave TD this direction: DO what is best for ALL CAL pilots. Clearly, they meant the majority with a small amount of discretion in case there really was something there [it had to change]. When he came back he was asked to explain his vote. Here is what he said (paraphrased slightly): "I'm a military leader, I've had to decide who lived and who died, this was the same thing". Of course, that was not an adequate answer. This isn't the military; we give him orders! He fought his recall and lost...he's gone...we're all better off for it. (you want a guy who reasons like that making decisions on cabotage or foriegn control?? F-no!!)

The CAL MEC hates age 65. There is going to be a decent early out deal put on the table and the old guys need to take it. Many will. Those who don't need to be treated as scabs with renewed prejudice.
 
Funny thing is that most who will fight the rest and stay are already Scabs.....Had a layover in EWR the other night with 3 of them(all over 60 guys based in IAH on the 757/767). they were all talking about staying until maybe 62 but I think they will be here until they are forced to leave. They could care less about the junior guys I assure you. BTW, there were 2 guys in the discussion who are within 500 from the bottom.
 
The CAL MEC hates age 65. There is going to be a decent early out deal put on the table and the old guys need to take it. Many will. Those who don't need to be treated as scabs with renewed prejudice.[/quote]

I sure hope you're right.
 
AA717driver said:
At least you have a job with AA.

Well, you WILL have a job...someday.












Maybe... ;) TC
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What's up TC?

Things look to get rough over there. I hope you'lle be okay.

Good Luck.
 

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