Flops Randomly *terminating* Many Pilots !beware!

[Voice Of Reason]

UPDATE: Flops Randomly *TERMINATING* (NOT Laying Off) *MANY* Pilots!

Thought I'd put this in its rightful title, to avoid future confusion to those outside...

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Today, 12:08
skyismyoffice
FLOPs laying off pilots
Just heard from a buddy of mine that he was laid off?? Anyone else conform?




Today, 12:46
skyismyoffice


Just confirmed this is 100% true! I figured people in CGF might get the axe, but the pilots?? I get requests for OT every week and now layoffs??


Don't know the criteria for layoffs, but if there is an out of seniority layoff I would look for FLOPs to close the doors within 2 months. Just my guess...




Today, 13:41
nerdpilot

Way out of senority is how it is happening. 1st class till the very end.




Today, 13:48
Photoflight

sorry to hear that guys.


Today, 14:30
PigPile


THEY ARE NOT LAYOFFS!!!! They are terminations!!!!! Out of seniority and supposedly based on productivity.


Today, 14:31
hawkercpt
oh crap! Now what?
Heard 198 people in all. 70 pilots on the list. Way out of seniority for the office folks confirmed. Ricci is in charge again and the union isnt gonna be able to do a thing about this I fear. Sorry to all the pilots getting screwed.


Today, 14:35
cjdriver
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Good luck to all. RTA guys look out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkercpt
Heard 198 people in all. 70 pilots on the list. Way out of seniority for the office folks confirmed. Ricci is in charge again and the union isnt gonna be able to do a thing about this I fear. Sorry to all the pilots getting screwed.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VoiceOfReason
geez this is not good at all....
How are guys on the road getting back home? Is the co holding them hostage if they don't sign? Just sign "Under Duress" as if it is a signature.
Just when you think it can't get worse. I'm speechless...didn't think Ricci had it in him to this extent.
omg
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Today, 14:41 #8
jetwash
What aircraft type are they getting fired from?
Large cabin? Mid cabin or BJ?
Were any of the 17 new hires from the last 3 months let go or is it just the pilots with 5+ years of experience.
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Today, 14:46 #9
PigPile
Nope!!
I talked to a couple of my ORIGINAL FO friends and they were fired.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cjdriver View Post
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Good luck to all. RTA guys look out.


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Today, 14:55
skyismyoffice
Yes, these are terminations! Guys on the road are given airlines home. They take your BlackBerry right away but you aren't required to sign anything right there. I guess you have 45 days to accept one weeks pay for every year of service. I can hear the law suits now...
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There better be (lawsuits)!

 

[Voice Of Reason]

anyone know if MS is involved, or has he been kicked to the curb?

...OR will he be kicked to the curb after this and Ricci will pretend he just swooped in to save us.

He's ALREADY THERE, so no fooling us there

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkercpt
Heard 198 people in all. 70 pilots on the list. Way out of seniority for the office folks confirmed. Ricci is in charge again and the union isnt gonna be able to do a thing about this I fear. Sorry to all the pilots getting screwed.


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How are they going to operate with 70 LESS pilots than already short??????

 

[Voice Of Reason]

QUOTE
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May training class cancelled.
I was suppose to start class last monday the 19th but rec'd a call from Susan F. in HR that the May class was cancelled indefinetely. I asked why and the answer she gave me was that Owners weren't flying and that they had to return some a/c that were on leases so no need to add crews. She did say that April class did go thru training. Good luck everyone.

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Consider yourself LUCKY! Why would you come here in this horrible climate anyway? Have you been reading the board since Jan?

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Anyone else just getting a BUSY SIGNAL when you call the co? I wanted to see if there was a new weekly message, and the main # just shows busy.

Are we out of business yet????
Something tells me that might explain the "armed guard" thing....?????

 

[J.Otto]

Are you serious?

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Are you serious?

About what?
In general, yes this thread is for real....

 

[hawkercpt]

Still in operation. I have a few friends still working in the office. All of the layoffs were to be done by 1600 today. So if you haven't gotten a call yet, your stil good. For now anyway.

 

[VA Buckeye]

From a former FLOPS pilot, sincere good luck to everyone still there.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Still in operation. I have a few friends still working in the office. All of the layoffs were to be done by 1600 today. So if you haven't gotten a call yet, your stil good. For now anyway.

...Until NEXT Friday when the opposite schedule pilot group is out, right? Love the adherence to standard Friday firings....:angryfire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iiOEQOtBlQ&feature=related (for a bit of humor during this nightmare)

 

[skyismyoffice]

I heard guys who are not on the road were called and delivered the news - some had seniority less than 100. What a mess!

 

[Voice Of Reason]

I heard guys who are not on the road were called and delivered the news - some had seniority less than 100. What a mess!

I think I'm gonna be uke:

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Still in operation. I have a few friends still working in the office. All of the layoffs were to be done by 1600 today. So if you haven't gotten a call yet, your stil good. For now anyway.

Are they saying who is behind it all? MS...? KR???? Both? Any mgt gone? Did they put Bob R**nh*** in charge of the place or something? It just sounds so absurd.... I can see if the doors were closing all together...but this is crazier than the usual brand of incompetent crazy:angryfire

 

[goodgig]

So which one of those is B19?

I really feel for you guys/gals. Tough situation, tough times. I know I would feel like one of the sheep in the pen behind the slaughter house. Good luck.

 

[1po'dpilot]

To those of you that got the boot, I'm sorry and wish you best. To those still at FLOPS best wishes as well hope you all get out! I can tell you all there is life after FLOPS (I got out in OCT and the grass is greener!).

To management FU & shame on you all. Sheeringa you are a spineless little weasel, Sanjay - you're just book cooking tool, Tyler - you're a two faced liar...

Good luck to my friends still at FLOPS!

 

[waka]

To management FU & shame on you all. Sheeringa you are a spineless little weasel, Sanjay - you're just book cooking tool, Tyler - you're a two faced liar...

DITTO!

 

[slowjet]

I was fired today from FLOPS, been there 8 years this August. The reason was "performance". When I questioned them on that- nothing but silence. I did not fly broke airplanes, fatiqued, hungry, or did overtime. I performed my captain duties as a professional pilot. I have never been called in for counciling on performance.

I am also a devout union supporter, P2P member, and on the membership committee. As many of us our who were fired. My senority # is 313 out of 561.

Basically, fired for being a professional.

Our management team can only make this company profitable by being cheap and raping its employees.

 

[Frac Daddy]

I was fired today from FLOPS, been there 8 years this August. The reason was "performance". When I questioned them on that- nothing but silence. I did not fly broke airplanes, fatiqued, hungry, or did overtime. I performed my captain duties as a professional pilot. I have never been called in for counciling on performance.

I am also a devout union supporter, P2P member, and on the membership committee. As many of us our who were fired. My senority # is 313 out of 561.

Basically, fired for being a professional.

Our management team can only make this company profitable by being cheap and raping its employees.

slowjet,

sorry to heat that? Are you ex-RTA? PM me.

 

[Frac Daddy]

I was fired today from FLOPS, been there 8 years this August. The reason was "performance". When I questioned them on that- nothing but silence. I did not fly broke airplanes, fatiqued, hungry, or did overtime. I performed my captain duties as a professional pilot. I have never been called in for counciling on performance.

I am also a devout union supporter, P2P member, and on the membership committee. As many of us our who were fired. My senority # is 313 out of 561.

Basically, fired for being a professional.

Our management team can only make this company profitable by being cheap and raping its employees.

slowjet,

sorry to hear that? Are you ex-RTA? PM me.

 

[netjetwife]

It looks like a witch hunt to me...:angryfire Were the pilots vocal supporters of 1108? Were they standing up for their right to work under a contract? More bad management/disgusting behavior from the FLOPS. Considering the source I guess we shouldn't be surprised (after all it has been proven that Sheeringa lacks integrity) but yet it still comes as a shock. My sympathy to all affected and to those who will understandably be wondering if they are next. Examples of out of control managers just prove why pilots band together in unions and insist on getting fair processes written into legally binding contracts.
Good luck everyone!
NJW