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Nah, stay off the booze, bad for my diet!

To "down tools and walk" is english for work stoppage. To take your "pram and go home" means you are acting like a woman. Or you could say, to "throw all of your toys out of the pram," in which case you be acting like an upset baby.

That was the english lesson for the day!
 
Nah, stay off the booze, bad for my diet!

To "down tools and walk" is english for work stoppage. To take your "pram and go home" means you are acting like a woman. Or you could say, to "throw all of your toys out of the pram," in which case you be acting like an upset baby.

That was the english lesson for the day!

Ok. Sure buddy! I still think you are hanging out at the Kew Club! But to complete your English lesson, you could enlighten us on the use of present and past tense.
 
Ok. Sure buddy! I still think you are hanging out at the Kew Club! But to complete your English lesson, you could enlighten us on the use of present and past tense.

Mamma, sorry for the thread drift, but why does Tanker Clown have a web-site linked to info with your pics? What am I missing?
 
Nah, stay off the booze, bad for my diet!

To "down tools and walk" is english for work stoppage. To take your "pram and go home" means you are acting like a woman. Or you could say, to "throw all of your toys out of the pram," in which case you be acting like an upset baby.

That was the english lesson for the day!
It would help if you explained what a Pram was.

It comes from the old English word "perambulator", meaning (obviously) "a rolling pram", which is an old-fashioned way of saying a "baby buggy".

An upset mother will "take her pram (with baby in it) and go home".

Down tools and walk is also an old English phrase, still used in England when talking about organised labour going on a wildcat strike.

p.s. I think he's been drinking, too. ;)
 
Unfortunately, 135$ oil will bury the likes of F9, Airtran and Jetblue. AMR, UAL and CAL will also be on the hotseat, but it com,es down to what the Gov. wants to do in terms of preserving a national airline. Not all will make it, and those that do will be relegated to Regualted Industry like it or not. Who has has a business plan for $130 oil?

God help this industry, I am glad I'm watching from the sidelines!
 
It would help if you explained what a Pram was. ;)

You know, you are right, I should have. I should have said: "Ma'm, why don't you take your perambulator and go home." But somehow, it just doesn't have the same ring to it.
 
For all the chest thumpers out there: How many significant gains in contracts were made during crisis economic conditions? For all the talk about strikes and showing strength, when have these been effective in squeezing anything significant out of a bleeding airline? During good times, absolutely. But this is an industry whose good times are an aberration to the usual bad times.

Sorry to break it to ya, but this industry is going down the drain and all the hooting an hollering from pilots isn't going to change things. When this industry figures out how to make money, then we'll go grab some of it for ourselves.
 
For all the chest thumpers out there: How many significant gains in contracts were made during crisis economic conditions? For all the talk about strikes and showing strength, when have these been effective in squeezing anything significant out of a bleeding airline? During good times, absolutely. But this is an industry whose good times are an aberration to the usual bad times.

Sorry to break it to ya, but this industry is going down the drain and all the hooting an hollering from pilots isn't going to change things. When this industry figures out how to make money, then we'll go grab some of it for ourselves.


Management seems to have no problem grabbing any of the money for themselves. If we acted like them, we would be giving ourselves bonuses everytime we completed a successful landing while stealing money from the other employees.
 
Unfortunately, 135$ oil will bury the likes of F9, Airtran and Jetblue.

Keep dreaming. F9 seems to be in some trouble right now, but AirTran and JetBlue are doing just fine. UAL and AMR will be long gone before either of the aforementioned LCCs are gone.
 
Keep dreaming. F9 seems to be in some trouble right now, but AirTran and JetBlue are doing just fine. UAL and AMR will be long gone before either of the aforementioned LCCs are gone.

Ha, Ha,

You wish... You should look a little deeper into the financials of AMR. More than what is published in the USA today.

No, AMR will not be the first to go. So maybe I should tell you to keep dreaming.

AAflyer
 
Unfortunately, 135$ oil will bury the likes of F9, Airtran and Jetblue. AMR, UAL and CAL will also be on the hotseat, but it com,es down to what the Gov. wants to do in terms of preserving a national airline. Not all will make it, and those that do will be relegated to Regualted Industry like it or not. Who has has a business plan for $130 oil?

God help this industry, I am glad I'm watching from the sidelines!
Ummm... yeah.

Might want to go check out those jetBlue numbers again... A LOT of money in the bank (comparably-speaking to their overhead costs) and has one of the better financial performances of the other carriers this year.

You may WANT those carriers to fail, but I don't see JB or AAI going anywhere anytime soon. The spike in oil is just a spike... it's going back to around $100-110 by this time next year. Just have to batten down the hatches and hang on - it's a game of attrition at this point.
 

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