Skywest Pay Proposal Results....

[vtech]

You're paid more to actually fly the airplane . . . , but . . . It's not a real pay rate.

OK, you win the semantics game.

The operative words, of course, are, "You're paid more to actually fly the airplane."

Thanks for playing. I'll be sure to let my banker know it's, somehow, not real money I'm getting deposited to my checking account each month.

 

[jstyle13]

Pretty much matched ASA. Did ASA aim low too? Took them 5 years. Took Skywest less than three months. Aim's the same but at least Skywest is faster on the trigger, huh?

If we had given up and taken a concessionary contract at ASA with a pay cut, would Skywest pilots have been offered any pay raise at all......

Once an ALPA pilot group fights for a pay raise and raises the bar (by whatever amount), you guys will get a pay raise offer to keep you close won't you? Or does Skywest Mgm't just pay you more becuase they are being nice and want to share the love.

 

[Turtlesfly]

are these rates posted somewhere here?

 

[PCL_128]

OK, you win the semantics game.

The operative words, of course, are, "You're paid more to actually fly the airplane."


Thanks for playing. I'll be sure to let my banker know it's, somehow, not real money I'm getting deposited to my checking account each month.

It's not semantics, it's less money. At my airline, I only fly about 30-50 hours a month, but I get paid 85-100 hours credit. Soft pay is a big deal. Under your BHO system, people lose a lot of extra money because all of the soft pay is based on the 50-seat rate rather than the BHO rate.

 

[Smiliner]

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[Dubya]

Vtech, you probably shouldn't be comparing those 900 and 700 (hmm, sounds like a sequel to 300) to the spineless guys at Skywest, but rather to all the other pilots who fly the same equipment you do. You know, the ones you just stabbed in the back by accepting such crap rates? Methinks those 700 are pretty much on the same page as the rest of us.

Shouldn't you be on Puberty leave?

W

P.S. Shave with the grain of the peach fuzz...not against.

 

[aircowboy]

VTECH way to rah rah undercutting the ASA guys and everyone else. The Brad Holt Override is not a hard pay rate. It barely even makes up for the shorter block time that the 700 flies.

 

[vtech]

It barely even makes up for the shorter block time that the 700 flies.

You do realize the credit times for flying the 700/900 are based upon 200 times over the same route, don't you? Since we get Block or Credit, whichever is greater, the shorter block times don't make any difference. The BHO applies to block or credit, whichever is greater and the credit time is based upon what it would take the 200 to fly the route. It's hard to make a good argument against something if you don't understand how it works but keep swingin'.

 

[OverTorque]

To all the whiners - I've worked for three regionals now. First one was with ALPA, second was Teamsters and now I'm with Skywest. I make more money and am treated better now than I ever was at those other two. No exaggeration, No BS. It's simply the way it is. This is why ALPA didn't pass and why it will never pass.

 

[SkyNation]

To all the whiners - I've worked for three regionals now. First one was with ALPA, second was Teamsters and now I'm with Skywest. I make more money and am treated better now than I ever was at those other two. No exaggeration, No BS. It's simply the way it is. This is why ALPA didn't pass and why it will never pass.

OverTorque,

when I first joined this board, I tried to convey this same message. While it's true, no one here wants to hear it. You know it's true, I know it's true, and we represent the majority of pilots at SkyWest. This is a merely a piss and moan fest, so get ready to be attacked by the usual suspects. They'll try to convince you that you don't have it so great, even though your QOL, W2, and future prospects here prove otherwise.

so, get ready, 'cause here they come!

pile on, idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[flashman]

OverTorque,

when I first joined this board, I tried to convey this same message. While it's true, no one here wants to hear it. You know it's true, I know it's true, and we represent the majority of pilots at SkyWest. This is a merely a piss and moan fest, so get ready to be attacked by the usual suspects. They'll try to convince you that you don't have it so great, even though your QOL, W2, and future prospects here prove otherwise.

so, get ready, 'cause here they come!

pile on, idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely right !

Threats and BS from all the tools hiding behind the annonimity of the internet.

Join or die attitudes, think like we think, and only ALPA knows what is right for you....and don't think anything different or else we'll mock you and think otherwise.

F' sticks like PCL and Clinton W. that have no apparent life other than to sit around and spend all their time on forums complaining.

Screw 'em. I have no sympathy or them or what they percieve is a shat sandwich....complain all you want on this and JetCareers, I don't care anymore. Those of you who know who you are need to worry more about getting laid and getting off the internet and complaining about Skywest.

I'm in the majority, I voted YES and and voted for DB.

And quit calling me your brother.

 

[yellowfever]

Well, you ignore the question and tell us what you "believe" about a contract somewhere. Good debate. Ignore the question and provide no factual information.

So which airline contract has a COLA that has kept pace with inflation over the past 7 years?

The average Skywest pilot makes ~45,000 dollars a year. Your 3% pay raise will cost Skywest less than 4.5 million dollars. ASA secured 13.5 million in retro. pay for ~1700 pilots. That averages out to over five years of your one year pay raise per pilot at ASA. Way to defend it though...I'm sure you're happy.

 

[XPOO]

And yet, SkyWest pilot's will also benefit more on their quaterly bonus as the profit margin keeps rising. And then they'll benefit even higher than that when the stock price goes up. These are the things none of you take into account whe trying to fogure out how much money a SkyWest employee makes. Another other regionals out there wanna compare their stock price? Options? Quarterly Bonuses? The majority of SkyWest pilots voted for a raise. Congratulations to them because they all deserved it. And a year from now, I'm certain they'll be getting another one.

 

[bmpilot2003]

OK, you win the semantics game.

The operative words, of course, are, "You're paid more to actually fly the airplane."

Thanks for playing. I'll be sure to let my banker know it's, somehow, not real money I'm getting deposited to my checking account each month.

vtech its not semantics a real pay rate means you get paid the same for SOFT and HARD time. If you have a whole month of 70 trips and take vacation on some you get get paid the 200 rate for the vacation you took. Equals LESS money, with a REAL rate this wouldn't happen.

 

[Chairman]

The average Skywest pilot makes ~45,000 dollars a year.quote]

How do you come up with that number since any second year FO can make that? As a former SkyW guy I would like to have seen a much better agreement for these guys and to have a hard rate for the 700/900, but remember this was a mid term agreement increase from the one set not to expire until Dec 2010. How regardless of the rates how many ALPA carriers have gotten a raise prior to the contract expiring?