Skywest Pay Proposal Results....

[PCL_128]

Pretty much matched ASA. Did ASA aim low too? Took them 5 years. Took Skywest less than three months. Aim's the same but at least Skywest is faster on the trigger, huh?

ASA has a real payrate for bigger airplanes. You still just have a "block-hour override." Honestly, you couldn't even fix this issue? Pathetic.

 

[SkyNation]

That skywest forum had a poll that showed 70% voting against this pay proposal and 30% voting for it. Exactly the OPPOSITE of what actually happened. That stinkin' forum really takes the true pulse of your pilot group - NOT!!!!!!!!!

Go figure.

about as much as this board reflects regional pilots in general.

 

[yellowfever]

Pretty much matched ASA. Did ASA aim low too? Took them 5 years. Took Skywest less than three months. Aim's the same but at least Skywest is faster on the trigger, huh?

I didn't say anything about ASA. Any airline making as much money as Skywest should have a cost of living increase that actually allows you to keep even with the cost of living. You're definitely aiming low!

 

[spg2bmd]

Ick...

 

[vtech]

ASA has a real payrate for bigger airplanes. You still just have a "block-hour override." Honestly, you couldn't even fix this issue? Pathetic.

The "block-hour override" is a real pay rate, too. It pays more for flying the "bigger airplane," too. Pathetic that you are not able to admit it.

Keep typin'. You're rhetoric has all the Skywest pilots knocking the doors down in Herndon to get in.

 

[vtech]

I didn't say anything about ASA. Any airline making as much money as Skywest should have a cost of living increase that actually allows you to keep even with the cost of living. You're definitely aiming low!

List all the airlines whose COLA's have kept even with the cost of living over the last 7 years.

The Skywest COLA equals the ASA COLA, at least for now. Skywest pilots will be back next fall talking pay for 2009.

 

[yellowfever]

List all the airlines whose COLA's have kept even with the cost of living over the last 7 years.

The Skywest COLA equals the ASA COLA, at least for now. Skywest pilots will be back next fall talking pay for 2009.

I believe expressjets contract has a decent cost of living increase. Not sure about RAH. However, it still isn't the point. You are losing buying power each year. How much money is your company making and how much of an increase do they get from their code share partners? AIMING LOW V TECH!

 

[flyboyzz1]

why do you care? Move along

 

[vtech]

I believe expressjets contract has a decent cost of living increase. Not sure about RAH. However, it still isn't the point. You are losing buying power each year. How much money is your company making and how much of an increase do they get from their code share partners? AIMING LOW V TECH!

Well, you ignore the question and tell us what you "believe" about a contract somewhere. Good debate. Ignore the question and provide no factual information.

So which airline contract has a COLA that has kept pace with inflation over the past 7 years?

 

[PCL_128]

The "block-hour override" is a real pay rate, too.

No, it's not. A real pay rate is a separate pay category. A simple override only to block hours is not a payrate.

It pays more for flying the "bigger airplane," too.

Nice spin. You're paid more to actually fly the airplane, but not for vacation, not if you're not above guarantee while sitting reserve, not for training, etc... It's not a real pay rate.

 

[vtech]

You're paid more to actually fly the airplane . . . , but . . . It's not a real pay rate.

OK, you win the semantics game.

The operative words, of course, are, "You're paid more to actually fly the airplane."

Thanks for playing. I'll be sure to let my banker know it's, somehow, not real money I'm getting deposited to my checking account each month.

 

[jstyle13]

Pretty much matched ASA. Did ASA aim low too? Took them 5 years. Took Skywest less than three months. Aim's the same but at least Skywest is faster on the trigger, huh?

If we had given up and taken a concessionary contract at ASA with a pay cut, would Skywest pilots have been offered any pay raise at all......

Once an ALPA pilot group fights for a pay raise and raises the bar (by whatever amount), you guys will get a pay raise offer to keep you close won't you? Or does Skywest Mgm't just pay you more becuase they are being nice and want to share the love.

 

[Turtlesfly]

are these rates posted somewhere here?

 

[PCL_128]

OK, you win the semantics game.

The operative words, of course, are, "You're paid more to actually fly the airplane."


Thanks for playing. I'll be sure to let my banker know it's, somehow, not real money I'm getting deposited to my checking account each month.

It's not semantics, it's less money. At my airline, I only fly about 30-50 hours a month, but I get paid 85-100 hours credit. Soft pay is a big deal. Under your BHO system, people lose a lot of extra money because all of the soft pay is based on the 50-seat rate rather than the BHO rate.

 

[Smiliner]

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[Dubya]

Vtech, you probably shouldn't be comparing those 900 and 700 (hmm, sounds like a sequel to 300) to the spineless guys at Skywest, but rather to all the other pilots who fly the same equipment you do. You know, the ones you just stabbed in the back by accepting such crap rates? Methinks those 700 are pretty much on the same page as the rest of us.

Shouldn't you be on Puberty leave?

W

P.S. Shave with the grain of the peach fuzz...not against.

 

[aircowboy]

VTECH way to rah rah undercutting the ASA guys and everyone else. The Brad Holt Override is not a hard pay rate. It barely even makes up for the shorter block time that the 700 flies.

 

[vtech]

It barely even makes up for the shorter block time that the 700 flies.

You do realize the credit times for flying the 700/900 are based upon 200 times over the same route, don't you? Since we get Block or Credit, whichever is greater, the shorter block times don't make any difference. The BHO applies to block or credit, whichever is greater and the credit time is based upon what it would take the 200 to fly the route. It's hard to make a good argument against something if you don't understand how it works but keep swingin'.

 

[OverTorque]

To all the whiners - I've worked for three regionals now. First one was with ALPA, second was Teamsters and now I'm with Skywest. I make more money and am treated better now than I ever was at those other two. No exaggeration, No BS. It's simply the way it is. This is why ALPA didn't pass and why it will never pass.

 

[SkyNation]

To all the whiners - I've worked for three regionals now. First one was with ALPA, second was Teamsters and now I'm with Skywest. I make more money and am treated better now than I ever was at those other two. No exaggeration, No BS. It's simply the way it is. This is why ALPA didn't pass and why it will never pass.

OverTorque,

when I first joined this board, I tried to convey this same message. While it's true, no one here wants to hear it. You know it's true, I know it's true, and we represent the majority of pilots at SkyWest. This is a merely a piss and moan fest, so get ready to be attacked by the usual suspects. They'll try to convince you that you don't have it so great, even though your QOL, W2, and future prospects here prove otherwise.

so, get ready, 'cause here they come!

pile on, idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!