The only thing they got was a guarantee that they would be notified of the mainline carrier's scope proposals. They don't get to sit at the table or actively participate. If you think the mainline MECs are going to do anything more than just email a copy of the scope section to the regional MEC, then you're kidding yourself.
Remember John, we have a different mindset about these things. I wouldn't feel I was being "screwed" by the NWA pilots if they took back their flying. Getting as much flying on the mainline list as possible is the goal. The regionals should serve a small niche and should basically serve as a stepping stone to the mainline carriers for most pilots. Expanded -700 and -900 flying at the regionals is abhorrent.
I don't work for NWA mainline (never wanted to), but I did find work at a mainline carrier. But what would have happened if the NPA years ago had allowed outsourcing of 90-seat airplanes? That's only 27 seats less than what I'm flying now. I'd wager that the job I have now wouldn't have been available, because it would have been outsourced to you or some other regional carrier at much lower payrates. Because of the NPA keeping that flying on the list, I now have a job at a carrier with a good retirement plan and decent pay. All mainline carriers should aim to keep as much flying on their own lists as possible, and that benefits the regional pilots by providing opportunities for advancement.
That's fine, but if you want to stay at the regionals then you should accept that you'll always be flying smaller aircraft that the mainline pilots allow to be outsourced. Expecting mainline pilots to allow their flying to be outsourced to you is ridiculous.
Actually, I agree with you on that. Mainline carriers shouldn't be trying to take scope back, unless the take the regional pilots with it. But you referenced NWA and my time on the MEC at PCL, and we didn't have any of that larger flying already. It was just a possibility at the time. Those planes didn't arrive at XJ and Comp-ass until I was gone. So, if the mainline pilots had taken crappy payrates to fly the -700s and -900s, no regional pilot would have lost his job, but the mainline guys would have retained the scope. That's why I said "expanded" flying in my post. We didn't already have it, so it wasn't ours to lose.
Actually, that's a pleasant thought! The tiny addition to the Admin Manual will always be a memorial to the utter failure of that loser Dan Ford. His cowardice and failure will live on forever!
I'll stop with the "BS rhetoric" as soon as the RJDC supporters admit that their settlement was a joke. Trying to spin this as some sort of victory is absurd, and you know that.
Yeah, I'm well aware.
I certainly don't care what they think, but if they're going to continue to spew rhetoric, then I'll return the favor. Their claims of some great victory will not go unchallenged.
Actually, I just find it entertaining.
No, I'm implying that MECs will comply with the letter of the law. If you want true cooperation rather than just the minimum required by the settlement, then you'll have to get your regional MECs to build relationships with the mainline MECs. True cooperation doesn't happen at the point of a gun.
