Anyone have a moment to talk about Reserve at delta?

[ASA]

Could someone who has a few minutes give a good description of what life would be like for a new guy who lives in Atlanta and gets based in NYC, either on the 767 or Md-88? Is there any way to do it without getting a crash pad? thanks.

 

[ASA_DFW]

To answer your question, no.

Pray that an Atlanta position comes up and take it. I don't care what position it is, take it. I am on the 88 in ATL. Today is day 6 on reserve and I haven't been called. Free week off from work. Lucky month.

As for NYC, you will need a crashpad regardless of which aircraft you get. You only get 11 or 12 days off per month depending on the month. Every day is long call reserve, 12 hour call out. Scheduling is allowed to give you 8 short call days. A short call day, on the 88 is a 12 hour period. Your 12 hour block can start as early as 03:45. On short call you have to able to get to the airport "within a reasonable amount of time." In NYC that could be 3 hours depending on the traffic. On the 88, you are responsible for all 3 airports. On the 767ER, only JFK. Short call on the ER is a 24 hour period (I think).

Reserve at Delta is not based on seniority. It is based on your RAW Score. It is a complex formula that was explained but I cannot explain it. Short call assignment are totally random. You can have the highest RAW Score on reserve and be assigned a short call.

I do not know of anyone who is based in NYC, on reserve, that doesn't have a crashpad.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I second the fact that you need a crash pad in NYC. You utilization in the winter months will be minimial, but it is difficult to get there with a decent notice much less in a few hrs.
There are a bunch of good places close to LGA. Most are near 180 a month for a hot bunk.

 

[densoo]

To answer your question, no.

Pray that an Atlanta position comes up and take it. I don't care what position it is, take it. I am on the 88 in ATL. Today is day 6 on reserve and I haven't been called. Free week off from work. Lucky month.

As for NYC, you will need a crashpad regardless of which aircraft you get. You only get 11 or 12 days off per month depending on the month. Every day is long call reserve, 12 hour call out. Scheduling is allowed to give you 8 short call days. A short call day, on the 88 is a 12 hour period. Your 12 hour block can start as early as 03:45. On short call you have to able to get to the airport "within a reasonable amount of time." In NYC that could be 3 hours depending on the traffic. On the 88, you are responsible for all 3 airports. On the 767ER, only JFK. Short call on the ER is a 24 hour period (I think).

Reserve at Delta is not based on seniority. It is based on your RAW Score. It is a complex formula that was explained but I cannot explain it. Short call assignment are totally random. You can have the highest RAW Score on reserve and be assigned a short call.

I do not know of anyone who is based in NYC, on reserve, that doesn't have a crashpad.

Nice. CAL "long call" (if you can call it that) is 9 hours, period...and only about 10% can get that...and they can change all of the days to short call at will. The rest is short call 3 hours, right across the board for everyone, 12 days off, scheds can roll the days at will with little penalty. Maybe CAL can move up to your post bankruptcy contract next time around.

 

[General Lee]

If you get NY, yes, get a crashpad. I have heard Kew Gardens is nice, between LGA and JFK, and they have their own cab service. From what I have heard, it is a bit like "Melrose Place", with their own bar and lots of women around. IF you are single, that could be fun. If you are not single, that could be fun but dangerous. Good luck.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[LandGreen]

If you get NY, yes, get a crashpad. I have heard Kew Gardens is nice, between LGA and JFK, and they have their own cab service. From what I have heard, it is a bit like "Melrose Place", with their own bar and lots of women around. IF you are single, that could be fun. If you are not single, that could be fun but dangerous. Good luck.

Bye Bye--General Lee

General:

Question for you when you have the time: For a guy living in ATL, desiring the "most" days at home...does he/she bid plug on a 767-400, mid reserve on 7ER, or around 80% percentile lineholder on 767 domestic?

I am curious what pros/cons with each of those categories in ATL are? Thanks. I imagine you have flown them all or know folks who have.

 

[General Lee]

General:

Question for you when you have the time: For a guy living in ATL, desiring the "most" days at home...does he/she bid plug on a 767-400, mid reserve on 7ER, or around 80% percentile lineholder on 767 domestic?

I am curious what pros/cons with each of those categories in ATL are? Thanks. I imagine you have flown them all or know folks who have.

The 764 (or 765 as we call it) is fairly senior, so if you are new I wouldn't worry about that ($18 more an hour than the 757/767). Reserve on any plane can be up and down. In the Summer, it seems like we are always short, so any day on reserve you could be called. In the Winter, maybe not so much. If we are adequately staffed, then you may not fly as much. Being a line holder allows you to manipulate your schedule if there are open trips available. If there is no open time, then you can be stuck with what you get, unless something pops up at the last minute. I prefer being a line holder just so I know what I will be doing. I also like being a senior line holder so I don't have to go to Lagos.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[KCPilot]

Is there anyone who commutes from SEA to JFK? If so, how hard is the commute?

 

[~~~^~~~]

KC - The LA base is growing.... You could get back and forth to NY, but I would not want long, time zone crossing, commute. Especially if you were flying the Atlantic once you got there. Delta should have an advanced entitlement bid coming out very soon which surely will get posted here. That will provide you with some SA on where the openings are.

The new 737 category in LA might be a good option.

 

[formerdal]

Actually, I believe reserve is 18 days ON in any bid period...so 12 and 13 days off depending on the length of that month

 

[ASA]

Can you switch around your Off Days? Could I bunch 5 or 6 together, then have several days off, or do you just get what you get? And do you bid for a "reserve line" which shows ON and OFF days, or do you just get a reserve line, and they randomly decide what off days are yours?

thanks.

 

[EMBpilot]

Yeah that ^

Plus how do people get around covering the 3 airports in NYC? Cabs? Are the buses between the airport a practical option (fast enough)?

 

[tbkane]

ASA,

You get what you get based on seniority. Then you can move things around based on availability. If there is enough pilots on each day you want to trade/drop you can if not nope. So if you want to move monday for wednesday no problem. Good luck trading to get weekends off not going to happen. It is all hit and miss based on staffing for that month.

 

[iaflyer]

Can someone who's working at Delta talk about the average pay for the first year while on reserve ther? I know what the guarantee pay is, but what was take home pay like?

 

[GogglesPisano]

The latest AE has a ton (almost 200) vacancies on the 88 in ATL with "new hires" printed next to them. Much more than NYC. I assume if no one bids them by the close of the entitlement they will go to new-hires but I'm not well-versed in this stuff, yet.

Your SSN will decide your fate.

BTW, they are very efficient at utilizing reserves. Last month I flew 68 hrs of credit (the guarantee is 70.) NYC 737. I live in domicile so no complaints here (not that I'd complain if I commuted, this place has far exceeded my expectations and I am very happy here.)

Apparently there's lots of moolah to be made in the summer with greenslips (above guarantee for reserves, above and x1.5 if above ALV for lineholders.) But during "off-peak" plan on guarantee on reserve.

 

[AA717driver]

Yeah that ^

Plus how do people get around covering the 3 airports in NYC? Cabs? Are the buses between the airport a practical option (fast enough)?

Disclaimer: I haven't been based in NYC for 10 years or so. The numbers and names may have changed but I doubt the basic infrastructure noted below is much different.

If you're in Kew Gardens (unlike the General, I've actually done the time in NYC... ) you can take the Q10 down to JFK. The Q33 runs up to LGA but you need a transfer.

EWR? You're on your own. Maybe go to Jamaica Station and get the Carey bus to Penn Station and connect out to EWR. The Princeton Airporter goes from JFK to EWR but not at O-dark-30.

After a couple of hot, sweaty rides on the Q10 with some of my "neighbors", I started using a car service (Kew Gardens/Kew Cab or Sureway) to both JFK and LGA.

Good luck. TC

 

[cocknbull]

The latest AE has a ton (almost 200) vacancies on the 88 in ATL with "new hires" printed next to them. Much more than NYC. I assume if no one bids them by the close of the entitlement they will go to new-hires but I'm not well-versed in this stuff, yet.

Your SSN will decide your fate.

BTW, they are very efficient at utilizing reserves. Last month I flew 68 hrs of credit (the guarantee is 70.) NYC 737. I live in domicile so no complaints here (not that I'd complain if I commuted, this place has far exceeded my expectations and I am very happy here.)

Apparently there's lots of moolah to be made in the summer with greenslips (above guarantee for reserves, above and x1.5 if above ALV for lineholders.) But during "off-peak" plan on guarantee on reserve.

Where is the latest AE posted?

 

[GogglesPisano]

Where is the latest AE posted?

My bad. I was looking at the August AE on Deltanet. The new one should be out wiithin the next few days.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I talked to crew resources last week and the word is the 5th. It could be later if marketing throws something on them at the last minute, but that is what they are planning.

 

[andyd]

Any thoughts on having an airport car in NYC? I'll be on the shuttle so will be able to park at the marine terminal...but what about parking in Kew Gardens or at the pads around LGA...is this realistic or should I just plan on public transportation? I don't think I can afford $8 each way 4-5x's a week for the car service while on first year pay....? Idea's???

 

[slinky]

Any thoughts on having an airport car in NYC? I'll be on the shuttle so will be able to park at the marine terminal...but what about parking in Kew Gardens or at the pads around LGA...is this realistic or should I just plan on public transportation? I don't think I can afford $8 each way 4-5x's a week for the car service while on first year pay....? Idea's???

The cars services have to be the cheaper option rather than having and extra car + insurance + parking + gas. Just my guess.

slinky

 

[TCMC17RES]

Latest Ae

Where is the latest AE posted?

ATL765CAPT 31 SHIFT IN FLYING

ATLM88CAPT 12 ADJUSTMENT

ATL765F/O 45 SHIFT IN FLYING

ATL767F/O 10 ADJUSTMENT

ATLM88F/O 125 NEW HIRES

CVG73NCAPT 30 ADDITIONAL A/C

CVG73NF/O 30 ADDITIONAL A/C

LAX7ERCAPT 44 ADDITIONAL A/C

LAX73NCAPT 40 ADDITIONAL A/C

LAX7ERF/O 44 ADDITIONAL A/C

LAX73NF/O 40 ADDITIONAL A/C

NYC777CAPT 32 ADDITIONAL A/C

NYCM88CAPT 4 ADJUSTMENT

NYC777F/O 32 ADDITIONAL A/C

NYC7ERF/O 41 ADDITIONAL A/C

NYCM88F/O 120 NEW HIRES

SLCM88CAPT 4 ADJUSTMENT

TOTAL VACANCIES: CAPT: 197 F/O: 487 TOTAL SYSTEM: 684

THE FOLLOWING
SURPLUSES ARE POSTED.


LAX765CAPT 31 LAX765F/O 32
TOTAL SURPLUSES: CAPT: 31 F/O: 32 TOTAL SYSTEM: 63

 

[EMBpilot]

Does this mean that new hires will go only to ATL88 and NY88?

And only 245 total new hires between now and Jun2008?

 

[w17cfii]

Hey General, thanks for pointing out that it's better to be a line holder than a reserve. And better to be a senior line holder....

You're a visionary, none of us could have figured that out on our own...

 

[FDJ2]

Does this mean that new hires will go only to ATL88 and NY88?

And only 245 total new hires between now and Jun2008?

These are just current vacancies, as they get fill by pilots in different categories they create additional vacancies down the line. For example, a ATL 767er captain bids to the ATL 777, he has now created an unpublished vacancy for the ATL 767er captain, that position is then filled by a MD88 captain and his position is filled by a 767 first officer and so on and so.

Additionally, I very much doubt that the NYC 767er first officer positions will get filled by this AE, particularly when many NYC 767er first officers will bid on to the 777, thereby opening up even more vacancies on the ER.

I'd expect pilots in their first year to continue to get an opportunity to bid on the 767 and 767er as DAL continues to ramp up its international flying.

 

[General Lee]

Hey General, thanks for pointing out that it's better to be a line holder than a reserve. And better to be a senior line holder....

You're a visionary, none of us could have figured that out on our own...

You are welcome. And, It is better to fly your DA-20 than your AA5A. Wow, you just ooze experience. Sounds like you may need a tudor. If you need my help, get your checkbook out.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Disclaimer: I haven't been based in NYC for 10 years or so. The numbers and names may have changed but I doubt the basic infrastructure noted below is much different.

If you're in Kew Gardens (unlike the general, I've actually done the time in NYC... ) you can take the Q10 down to JFK. The Q33 runs up to LGA but you need a transfer.

EWR? You're on your own. Maybe go to Jamaica Station and get the Carey bus to Penn Station and connect out to EWR. The Princeton Airporter goes from JFK to EWR but not at O-dark-30.

After a couple of hot, sweaty rides on the Q10 with some of my "neighbors", I started using a car service (Kew Gardens/Kew Cab or Sureway) to both JFK and LGA.

Good luck. TC

Wow, I guess I wasn't a Shuttle FE for 6 months? I guess that was all a dream? Yeah, I stayed in a loft in a Brownstone near Central Park, but I guess that was all a dream? WRONG......... Thanks Pam Ewing.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[w17cfii]

Maybe you need a spellcheck...

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[ASA]

Okay, so some more advice? Let's say you are going to be a commuter from Atlanta who has a new hire choice of MD-88 or 767ER in NYC. Am I correct in thinking 767ER might be a better choice because (a) only 1 airport to worry about and (b) maybe more predictable as international flights mostly go out in the afternoon thru evening? Thoughts, please, thanks.

 

[General Lee]

Maybe you need a spellcheck...

Tu·dor

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–noun 1.Antony, 1909–87, English choreographer and dancer. 2.David (Eugene), 1926–1996, U.S. pianist and composer. 3.Mary. Mary I. 4.a member of the royal family that ruled in England from 1485 to 1603. –adjective 5.pertaining or belonging to the English royal house of Tudor. 6.of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the periods of the reigns of the Tudor sovereigns: Tudor architecture.

Did you find your dicktionary in your cool Grumman AA-5? Wow, you ooooze experience.

Bye Bye--General Lee