Airtran Pilots if you want change vote for Schroll

[MGT3]

Just voted for Mike and hope there are about 1500 other like minded individuals out there.

All you need is 751 like minded individuals. I voted today.

Hey Steelers Fan: How 'bout them Cardinals?

GT

 

[Eagle757shark]

From what I understand, SK has been quoted by some that the best negotiator he has come across is MB. I've heard this from several folks I've flown with. What does that mean, don't know. I think there should be a time and place, similar to a road show, where the candidates have a forum to voice their issues and what their agenda is for the pilots at AirTran. I would like to make an educated decision based off hearing each candidates issues and also having a session where each candidate can answer questions. This is a very important vote. I do not want my decision to be based on others personal likes or dislikes for someone....we all know how that is in this business.

 

[airline#5]

The issue is this, FO pay $ucks. Who is supporting the FO's, aka "B" scalers?

 

[Lear70]

Lear: I am not looking for someone to "get along" that is an insult. what I am looking for is someone that can walk the line with these jackoffs in orlando, be politically correct if you will while still getting the job done for the pilots there is a way to get a milk bone out of a pitbulls mouth and I am sorry you got bit: seriously

Thanks, it sucks... there's no real other word that fits as aptly.

And please don't take offense, I didn't mean that as a slam on you or John Schroll and certainly didn't mean to insinuate that he WOULD act that way, I just don't think a "play nice" attitude is going to get us anything with this particular management group and I got a *slight* hint of that from John's position paper.

The guys who know him tell me that's not the case, so I'm not saying he's a "bad" choice, just don't think SOME of his ideas will work (downsizing the NPA, stopping the use of ALPA services (not that we have to use all of them, but some of them are VITAL), and flying full time while being NPA president during negotiations).

Fly safe out there!

 

[71driver]

mike best's position paper came out today and I must say I got a warm fuzzy feeling when I read it.

I did not know John Schroll was a scab, but those of us in the know, know there are three levels, does anybody know what his is?

I have been at over a half dozen 121 carriers some bigger than Airtran, and often the problem is, as it is now, is trying to figure out what is in a room while trying to look through a key hole...you don't get the whole picture, we/I think we are in the know only to have someone point out something contrary to what you know i.e. Schroll is a scab and unfortunetly we have more than our fair share of scabs. In the end I always reserve the right to change my mind based on the most accurate information I have at the time I vote.

So keep on communicating it is the best we can do.

 

[DonVerita]

In my almost 6 years here, I have never read a more well thought out and comprehensive position paper than what I read today from Mike Best. He truely "gets it".

I just voted online for Mike. Very easy decision.

Now, if we can just get him paired up with an equally emphatic and visionary Vice Presidential candidate, we are going to be sitting very nice indeed. We'll know who those candidates will be soon enough.

 

[PCL_128]

I did not know John Schroll was a scab, but those of us in the know, know there are three levels, does anybody know what his is?

Well, I disagree that there really are three "levels," but the list doesn't have a hire date for him, so that means that he was "old EAL," meaning hired at some point prior to the strike. Beyond that, I haven't heard anything.

 

[DCitrus9]

I'm glad to see Mike B has shown up with a paper and solid goals. I think he is a stronger candidate with a better grasp on the needs of the union, and I am flip-flopping my vote back to Mike Best, and hope you all do too.

 

[71driver]

I just got off the phone with Mike, will probably have to talk to him again but as of now I am leaning towards Mike also.

The problem is Mike was around for a portion of these negotiations and I was attaching him to this POS TA, but as he told me there were no concessions on the table when he decided to step down. I believe he told me he decided to step down when Crackpot I mean Philpot decided to get involved with the negotiations, that's when the concessions hit the table....what a mess!!

 

[tubelcane]

Mike Best's paper was impressive.

What about the Cardianls? That was their Superbowl!

 

[Max Powers]

You can tell the level of competence, in a person, by how they write.....

To sum it up M. Best wrote an articulate and constructive position of where we are and where we need to go. I am confident a vote for him is in our best interest.

Pons came in second

Schroll and the other guy basically stunk.

My vote is for M. Best

 

[Murphy]

So Mike Best wrote a great position paper. Good for him.

Which candidate has the most passion? Which candidate wants the job the most? Which candidate understands the job the best and has the drive and energy to do what is required of the job? Which candidate will surround himself with the best team? The answer to those questions is more important than who wrote a doctoral level position paper. Mike Best may have written the best position paper, but he may not be the best President.

 

[jimcav]

You can tell the level of competence, in a person, by how they write.....

To sum it up M. Best wrote an articulate and constructive position of where we are and where we need to go. I am confident a vote for him is in our best interest.

Pons came in second

Schroll and the other guy basically stunk.

My vote is for M. Best

Give me a break. Maybe if they were an English major that would matter.

 

[Phaedrus]

I would think the ability to communicate effectively would be a definite plus as a union president...

 

[Afterprop]

Prtty amzing tht u cn rd ths . . . and mst lkly u cn. bt I srt dbt u'd vt fr me aftr pnnng ths lttl prgrph. Bt hw u prsnt yslf to the msss s crtl mprtnt.

But even more important , MB gets it ! ! !

 

[Kharma Police]

If elected do you think the first thing Schroll will do is get the union to pay for his lawsuit against the union? Because after all, he was un-selfishly suing the NPA to help us all.

 

[PanPan]

So Mike Best wrote a great position paper. Good for him.

Which candidate has the most passion? Which candidate wants the job the most? Which candidate understands the job the best and has the drive and energy to do what is required of the job? Which candidate will surround himself with the best team? The answer to those questions is more important than who wrote a doctoral level position paper.

And the answer is......... Mike Best.

 

[PCL_128]

So Mike Best wrote a great position paper. Good for him.

Yes, it is good. I'd like to have a union President who doesn't make a fool out of himself every time he sends a memo or an email. Eloquence is important for a leader.

Which candidate has the most passion?

Mike Best.

Which candidate wants the job the most?

Wrong question. The question should really be, "why does he want it?" There are three types of people you run across in union work:

1. The guy trying to boost his own ego with a fancy new title, business card, and office.

2. The guy trying to only benefit himself by shifting policy to a stance that will benefit himself to the greatest degree, no matter how it affects everyone else.

3. The guy that's really doing the job to benefit the pilot group and the profession. Unfortunately, this is the hardest guy to find, because there aren't enough of them around.

Schroll has already disqualified himself from fitting into category 3, as far as I'm concerned, by filing a lawsuit against his own union, and therefore his own pilot group. If the NPA had been forced to pay out that money to John, then the NPA would be bankrupt and all of us would be screwed. Doesn't sound like the kind of guy that I want watching out for me. Not to mention the whole "strike breaker" thing.

Which candidate understands the job the best and has the drive and energy to do what is required of the job?

Clearly, Mike Best. He is the only candidate in this race that has even remotely the level of experience necessary to do this job, and he's even committed to moving back to Atlanta so that he can do the job to the best of his ability.

Which candidate will surround himself with the best team?

Again, Mike Best. He's the only one with enough experience to even know what is required of a good team for each job. The other guys would be shooting in the dark trying to figure out how to run this union and assemble a viable team.

Mike Best may have written the best position paper, but he may not be the best President.

But it just so happens that in this case, he's both.

 

[Max Powers]

So Mike Best wrote a great position paper. Good for him.

Which candidate has the most passion? Which candidate wants the job the most? Which candidate understands the job the best and has the drive and energy to do what is required of the job? Which candidate will surround himself with the best team? The answer to those questions is more important than who wrote a doctoral level position paper. Mike Best may have written the best position paper, but he may not be the best President.

Well since I can't personally interview each candidate and the difference between Schroll and Best is so large; when looking at their writing abilities and ideas.

Just think if some of us would have paid more attention to what someone has to say and how they say it - for instance the last 2 presidential elections we would be so much better off.

 

[71driver]

pcl 128

Schroll has already disqualified himself from fitting into category 3, as far as I'm concerned, by filing a lawsuit against his own union, and therefore his own pilot group. If the NPA had been forced to pay out that money to John, then the NPA would be bankrupt and all of us would be screwed. Doesn't sound like the kind of guy that I want watching out for me. Not to mention the whole "strike breaker" thing.


Make sure you know the whole story about his lawsuit against the NPA in fact you seemed pretty ingaged and that is a good thing so call John yourself if you don't you will be voting out of ignorence. Remember our own attorney snooped in on Brad's website to stick it to Rich, there is no telling how low they will go, and hence the reason to seriously consider John Schroll if you want change.

As far as Schroll being a scab he is the lowest grade which is to say he flew at Eastern, went on strike and only after the MEC Chairman said the Pilots should go back to flying did he go, he really shouldn't of been on the list in the first place.