We've just seen several vocal pilots terminated. What do you think they're scared of?
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We've just seen several vocal pilots terminated. What do you think they're scared of?
-9Capt
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So they're easily intimidated? At least sign up and read only.
I think lots of guys do. Brad posts a list on the front page with all of the guys who are signed up with current confidentiality agreements. There's tons of names there, but only a few guys who post often. Brad would know how many different guys read it regularly, but I'd imagine that it's a lot more than just the guys that post. I read it all the time, but I won't post until I'm off probation. There's "easily intimidated," and then there's just "stupid." Personally, I think it would be just plain stupid to post anything about the contract with your name attached while on probation.
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PCL,
Point well taken, but...
I don't think that many from the FI crowd is signed up. It's frustrating to see the same questions and topics brought up on FI after they have already been thoroughly discussed and put to bed on the other site.
There is some terrific info available to every airtran pilot on that site. The two front runners for the president position are posting there. That alone is well worth the hassles of signing up.
www.airtranpilots.org
Point well taken, but...
I don't think that many from the FI crowd is signed up. It's frustrating to see the same questions and topics brought up on FI after they have already been thoroughly discussed and put to bed on the other site.
There is some terrific info available to every airtran pilot on that site. The two front runners for the president position are posting there. That alone is well worth the hassles of signing up.
www.airtranpilots.org
If brad would lited up a bit with the secrect srerriel stuff I might go there. By the way I am drunk and board.
-9Capt
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I used to think he went a little overboard with the whole security thing also, until he caught a hacker.
The way he has it set up actually makes a lot of sense and keeps the company from eves-dropping, or face federal charges. It's a lot different than logging on to FI.
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No keep it on here. It actually is very informative and it's good I think, to know what the environment is like at all carriers good or bad.
Murphy
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Agreed!
According to the latest NPA email, only a third of the pilot group has voted so far. Come on guys, this is important. Get off your butts and become a part of this process.
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I'll second that. One week to go. Voting stops on the 24th. Have there been any candidate sightings in the crew area?
...Best may write well...it's when he totally craps out of his mouth, he fails...as demonstrated...
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He broke the confidentiality agreement that you have to sign to be a member of the airtranpilots.org message board by copying and distributing posts from the board. That's a big no-no on Brad's website. Everyone that posts there expects it to stay on that site and not be distributed elsewhere. Not exactly the kind of honesty and leadership example that I expect from a union President.
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Can you relay any details? Who did he distribute this to?
To all those who have not voted - this is EXTREMELY important to our future. Go vote. Tell your friends to vote. Lets make sure we are heard.
On a personal note, I voted for Mike Best.
Well, the email that Brad sent out says "public distribution approved," so I think it's ok to talk about it outside of his forum. Basically, JS was "offended" about some of the stuff said about him on the forum, so he is considering it libel and slander and sent copies of the posts to the Dept of Labor and to the NPA. I'm not sure what he hopes to gain from it, but it's definitely a violation of his confidentiality agreement, so Brad disabled his account. Not sure if Brad is pursuing legal measures, but it doesn't sound like it based on the email.
...no...in his everyday life...
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Originally Posted by DonVerita
In my almost 6 years here, I have never read a more well thought out and comprehensive position paper than what I read today from Mike Best. He truely "gets it".
I just voted online for Mike. Very easy decision.
Now, if we can just get him paired up with an equally emphatic and visionary Vice Presidential candidate, we are going to be sitting very nice indeed. We'll know who those candidates will be soon enough.
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Not sure what you mean by him failing. If you mean at the negotiating table, the failures happened when Alan joined in and gave away the house. Mike wanted no part of that and let Alan go down in flames by himself.
"as demonstrated", "in his everyday life" what exactly do you mean? You have made two posts in this thread without actually adding anything meaningful to the conversation. If you just don't like the guy, but you do not have a reason other than your gut, than say that. If you have a specific reason than let us know. So far all you have managed to convince me of is you don't have anything useful to add. Make an actual point or let the rest of us debate the subject with real information.
In my almost 6 years here, I have never read a more well thought out and comprehensive position paper than what I read today from Mike Best. He truely "gets it".
I just voted online for Mike. Very easy decision.
Now, if we can just get him paired up with an equally emphatic and visionary Vice Presidential candidate, we are going to be sitting very nice indeed. We'll know who those candidates will be soon enough.
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Not sure what you mean by him failing. If you mean at the negotiating table, the failures happened when Alan joined in and gave away the house. Mike wanted no part of that and let Alan go down in flames by himself.
"as demonstrated", "in his everyday life" what exactly do you mean? You have made two posts in this thread without actually adding anything meaningful to the conversation. If you just don't like the guy, but you do not have a reason other than your gut, than say that. If you have a specific reason than let us know. So far all you have managed to convince me of is you don't have anything useful to add. Make an actual point or let the rest of us debate the subject with real information.
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A SCAB in a union position,.......(trying not to laugh too hard),...now that's funny !!!
UGODDABEKIDDINME!!!!!!
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