ABX furloughs

[penguin22]

Just read the crew letter put out today asking for volunteers to fly the ANA stuff...please no one volunteer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love the part where Vollmer reminisces when, over 20 years ago, a few bold crewmembers signed up to fly the DC8 and bring ABX into the heavy airlift market...

Those guys were promised their DC8 pay raise once we got a new contract in place. Never got it. They got screwed.

Volunteer for ANA? Put it in a bid, maybe I'll bid it

 

[LarryinTN]

Doesn't look like there's any vacation buy back in either seat on the DC9!

 

[freighthound]

Doesn't look like there's any vacation buy back in either seat on the DC9!

Great job 9 guys/gals, hopefully the other seats will follow. Anyone who volunteers for ANA is directly violating our contract. There are absolutely no provisions for volunteer flying. You could bid on it after they put it in COF but you can't just volunteer. Anyone who volunteers, therefore willingly violates the contract, is giving the entire group a big one finger salute, IMHO.

 

[ABXbooger]

Only 11 people across all seats did VBB, none in the 9 at all. Thanks for this show of support!

 

[erichartmann]

Love the part where Vollmer reminisces when, over 20 years ago, a few bold crewmembers signed up to fly the DC8 and bring ABX into the heavy airlift market...

Those guys were promised their DC8 pay raise once we got a new contract in place. Never got it. They got screwed.

Volunteer for ANA? Put it in a bid, maybe I'll bid it

I'm happy to see others remember the way things work.

Put it in a bid and maybe I'll consider bidding it. Depends rather heavily on the work rules and the transportation to and from. If they are ~!@#$% us on the business class seats they will have to drag me kicking and screaming all the way.

 

[LarryinTN]

I heard that they're offering $1500 cash if you'll take coach but that's third-hand information and not verified. Other than that, I haven't heard anything suggesting that they weren't buying the biz class tickets that they're required to buy.

Talked to one 767 F/O who's scheduled to go soon. He said that people think that he's volunteered for it but he didn't. He's on reserve and it was assigned to him. He says that he doesn't know anyone who volunteered for it.

 

[Bitter]

Voltimorts letter for volunteers, is a clear end aound our contract. If we volunteer for ANA, we just killed any chance of a contract and pay raises.
Concessionary all the way.......to the end. This union could be close to broken. This is game time, junior, senoir, OPF guy ,non OPF guy. It does not matter. We all need to stand sholder to sholder and say ENOUGH. You are viloating our CBA every day multiple times, you are violating the spirit of it even more. We are done with this. No more VBB, OPF, JM or ANA until the staffing situation and the ANA mess is negotiated.

If we roll over on this, then we all get what we deserve. Till the doors close.

I think the junior guys get it, but some of the senoir guys seem some what insulated and aloof about the hole thing. Heard several off them personally commit to continuing Opf.

We are dying and divided.

 

[Bitter]

[/quote]Talked to one 767 F/O who's scheduled to go soon. He said that people think that he's volunteered for it but he didn't. He's on reserve and it was assigned to him. He says that he doesn't know anyone who volunteered for it.[/quote]

Have him document the whole process, his schedule, travel etc. Take all this to a steward or one of the staff attorneys and grieve every violation. This mess has to be stopped. Or we just bought doing this way forever with our inaction.

 

[Box-Hauler]

This is MIA all over. The first trip down south we did not stop the flight in Guatamal for a lack of food even though we were scheduled for a 12+ hour duty day. Since we did not stop the flight we now have no crew meals. Our food is whatever you bring with you. If you forget you better hope the pilot lounge is stocked with cookies in Guatemal, otherwise you will go hungry.

The past will fortell our future. Our lovely company will do the least possible to get the job done. This means it is up to us (the crews) to ensure that they (company) obides by the contract. If you are forced to deadhead for 20 hours tell them you are fatigued when you get to Japan. Tell them you will call them when you feel rested. Once one trip does not go due to a crew being "fatigued" from the coach class trip over they will start to follow the CBA and put us in business class. It is a crappy position to be in but all it takes is one man to follow the FAR's, and company policy. If you are unfit to fly due to the companies seat assingment that is their problem, not the pilots. Stand tough and this will be fixed, go along because it is too much work to do the right thing and we will all pay...... concessionary contract here we come.

 

[Bitter]

Box Hauler, I cound not agree more. If we do not stand firm, we get what we asked for. Vollmers little volunteer letter, is union busting 101. It circiumvents the CBA. Anybody that volunteers, is directly atributing to our collective issues, of JM, furlough, Opf, incorrect staffing, ANA violations...Our union is at a cross roads. All our careers are in the balance, even the senior people who think they are out of reach.

Stand united, or we are all cooked!

 

[abxaviator]

WIGO posted today, specifically thanks "those who have already stepped up." I sure hope none of the line crews have actually volunteered.

 

[flyinboxes]

I'll bet thats a lie and that no one has "stepped up". Your union needs to verify this.

 

[GoABX]

Cramming it down the throats of the reservists is crappy. But the forced flexibility might go to hell if one or two call in sick the day they're scheduled to fly out. That would be one big sick-no charge.

 

[ABXbooger]

I find it rather funny that in the newest WIGO, our fearless leader says hes been reading "The Emperors Handbook". Is he studying for the future? Or does he really think he is an emperor?


Who's gonna tell the emperor that he isn't wearing any clothes?

 

[Bitter]

or that his empire is falling to bits and shrinking rapidly.......

Anyone got an update on last night meeting?