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On AirlinePiotforums it shows that Atlas pays 62 hour guarantee at 75 first year - Is that accuracte? If so it would be a nightmare at almost $2 to 1pound sterling to try to live anywhere near STN on that.
How long is the upgrade in STN?
 
First year is 50hr/mo guarantee. The money is OK but they expect to own you outright for it! No quick STN upgrades anymore, 8+ years now!
 
Good luck with STN! Hope its worth flying the 747.:rolleyes:
 
One more thing - could sombody post a sample STN sched? Also, how many days off in STN are there?
Thanks
I was told a 16 on 14 off but the company could hold you for another 3 days. Commute to STN is on your own dime though!

My mum lives only about 40mins away but I would like to see some work to rule changes before I consider it. Jumpseating to the UK is not desirable or reasonable.
 
thats what i thought,

how bad could it be? im stuck right now in a regional flying 7 legs a day, no upgrade no money no adventure. and atlas will pay for my 400 type send me to exotic places and pay me well? sign me up.

well myself and every FO at STN is here to tell you that it is not worth it.

dont give in to the temptation. these people dont care about the crews one bit. they will burn you down with the feds, will fire you in a heartbeat, will try to do illegal things to you. go ahead and call alpa national and ask them who has the most section 19's right now and for all time(firings) and they will say ATLAS AIR. they will fire you without hesitation. the training dept is filled with amateurs and the ex colonel captains you will fly with are a joy as well.

buy hey what do i know.

have fun in stn.

but you can always reference my first post.

get the type and go to NCA or KOREAN
 
thats what i thought,

how bad could it be? im stuck right now in a regional flying 7 legs a day, no upgrade no money no adventure. and atlas will pay for my 400 type send me to exotic places and pay me well? sign me up.

well myself and every FO at STN is here to tell you that it is not worth it.

dont give in to the temptation. these people dont care about the crews one bit. they will burn you down with the feds, will fire you in a heartbeat, will try to do illegal things to you. go ahead and call alpa national and ask them who has the most section 19's right now and for all time(firings) and they will say ATLAS AIR. they will fire you without hesitation. the training dept is filled with amateurs and the ex colonel captains you will fly with are a joy as well.

buy hey what do i know.

have fun in stn.

but you can always reference my first post.

get the type and go to NCA or KOREAN

Better yet, go to Cathay Cargo and fly a 400 from a US base.
 
STN = Abuse

Better yet, go to Cathay Cargo and fly a 400 from a US base.

That is a much better alternative to STN, but we have 1 new hire in class now (400 FO/STN) and I hear that we have quite a few candidates based on the number of resumes coming into HDQ. Some guys just don't know what they're getting into, just want to fly a 747 at all costs :mad:
 
B747 in no time!!!!! here we go....

That is a much better alternative to STN, but we have 1 new hire in class now (400 FO/STN) and I hear that we have quite a few candidates based on the number of resumes coming into HDQ. Some guys just don't know what they're getting into, just want to fly a 747 at all costs :mad:


Does anyone also think that this is sort of like those ads you see in "flying" mag or in "plane and pilot" where you see a young kid smiling happily in the right seat and on top are the words, 0time to Jet time in 6 months!
Kids go to ERAU or whatever, put in their time there and walk into a right seat. They find out firsthand what it really means to work for 18K a year and fly 7 legs a day, day after day, and to pound it out month after month.

They bitch and moan and contribute to a conversation as if they have been around for a decade then get "bored" with the right seat of an RJ once they find out that upgrade isnt 2 months away....then look for........a B747 job!
hey how about that? We'll hire you, because you'll have $$ signs in your eyes, have a raging hard on for singapore, hong kong, and hawaii layovers and would love to be based in STN or ANC or NRT! then they get there, get beat the hell up and before long they bitch and moan, totally forgetting the fact that less than 2-3 years ago they were learning what pitch and airspeed meant!

Dont get me wrong, Im not saying young guys suck, they dont. they just get suckered in with images of prestige, respect and high pay....get there and then forget just how lucky they are to even be in a cockpit considering the obstacles ......and just simple dont know any better and want to fly a B747 at any cost!!!!......like the previous poster just said.


Yeap, makes it hard to raise the bar or eliminate bs like a stn base when guys are more than eager to go......sigh.....as long as these 0 time to B747 in not time ads are alive and well.....our battles are just that much harder......oh well...
 
STN Sucks!!!!

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Does anyone also think that this is sort of like those ads you see in "flying" mag or in "plane and pilot" where you see a young kid smiling happily in the right seat and on top are the words, 0time to Jet time in 6 months!
Kids go to ERAU or whatever, put in their time there and walk into a right seat. They find out firsthand what it really means to work for 18K a year and fly 7 legs a day, day after day, and to pound it out month after month.

They bitch and moan and contribute to a conversation as if they have been around for a decade then get "bored" with the right seat of an RJ once they find out that upgrade isnt 2 months away....then look for........a B747 job!
hey how about that? We'll hire you, because you'll have $$ signs in your eyes, have a raging hard on for singapore, hong kong, and hawaii layovers and would love to be based in STN or ANC or NRT! then they get there, get beat the hell up and before long they bitch and moan, totally forgetting the fact that less than 2-3 years ago they were learning what pitch and airspeed meant!

Dont get me wrong, Im not saying young guys suck, they dont. they just get suckered in with images of prestige, respect and high pay....get there and then forget just how lucky they are to even be in a cockpit considering the obstacles ......and just simple dont know any better and want to fly a B747 at any cost!!!!......like the previous poster just said.


Yeap, makes it hard to raise the bar or eliminate bs like a stn base when guys are more than eager to go......sigh.....as long as these 0 time to B747 in not time ads are alive and well.....our battles are just that much harder......oh well...

That about sums it up! :uzi: STN
 

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