Hey Colgan!

[70-SS]

THat's funny, 2nd yr FO's just got a 13% raise without a union.

what about the saab capts??????????

 

[suupah]

In that letter he mentioned that we have a close relationship and that we would not be able to negotiate our pay and rules directly with them anymore.

Did anyone else on here know that we could negotiate anything? Is anyone else on here close with the Colgans? Do they really think that we don't know the weakness' in our work rules and treatment?

crazy how insulting that letter was. From what I have heard from most people the letter had the opposite effect and just made them want to rush to get the union even more.

 

[70-SS]

You were misinformed.

I don't think so. BOS last Thurs

 

[70-SS]

what about that letter from mike yesterday? some of that didn't even sound legal...i guess free speech and all, but dang. let's just keep it in the family, ha!

the best quote though - "If you sign that card, it may lead to giving away your right to represent yourself and talk to the company directly about your wages, the hours you work and your working conditions."

are you kidding me?

colgan pilots did complain about their pay mr. colgan. quit rehashing old form letters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BirdCatcher]

In that letter he mentioned that we have a close relationship and that we would not be able to negotiate our pay and rules directly with them anymore.

Did anyone else on here know that we could negotiate anything? Is anyone else on here close with the Colgans? Do they really think that we don't know the weakness' in our work rules and treatment?

crazy how insulting that letter was. From what I have heard from most people the letter had the opposite effect and just made them want to rush to get the union even more.

We most certainly did not negotiate the Q400 payscale that is for sure. Or howabout that Policy and Procedures booklet, who from the pilot group help negotiate that? Bueller? Bueller? Anyone...

 

[lga-Nback]

Oh yeah, how about the last time you checked out, and they "drafted " you on your day off to cover their poorly staffed, No reserve airline. I wish I would have known All I had to do was was exercise my two way communications with management to air my grievence. I missed my brothers bachelor party! Communication is two way, when is the last time anyone, got asked how you like your wages, quality of life, days off, hours worked, schedule, Telephone calls during reduced rest periods, etc...
If Colgan wants to stave off a union, they better start talking to our pilot group, and not sending semi-threatning letters bragging about rights we do not have!

 

[suupah]

If Colgan wants to stave off a union, they better start talking to our pilot group, and not sending semi-threatning letters bragging about rights we do not have!

I haven't talked to a single pilot who didn't think that letter was completely out of touch with the pilots. I think the truth comes down to two possiblities

1. They don't have any idea what is going on with their pilots
2. They think we are stupid and that we have no idea what goes on in the
industry outside of Colgan

AS IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT A UNION IS OR WHAT IT DOES.

 

[FIXIT]

Vote No.

 

[lga-Nback]

I haven't talked to a single pilot who didn't think that letter was completely out of touch with the pilots. I think the truth comes down to two possiblities

1. They don't have any idea what is going on with their pilots
2. They think we are stupid and that we have no idea what goes on in the
industry outside of Colgan

AS IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT A UNION IS OR WHAT IT DOES.

Yes, they think are heads are in the sand.

 

[Prop2Jet]

FIX IT:

What is your reason for voting no? If you would not mind I would like to know.

 

[suupah]

Vote No.

Vote YES

 

[lga-Nback]

Vote No.

Sounds like fixits broken!

 

[I ROCK]

I am not registered to vote. They told me today I have to be here at least 2 years.

 

[better up here]

Well this is all a lot of talk...have YOU sent YOUR card in???

 

[I ROCK]

NO but I sent YOUR card in.

 

[Prop2Jet]

Who's card? Is it someones birthday? hahahahah

 

[jtrain609]

Fellow Colgan Pilots,

Come join us for a FREE bite to eat tomorrow, Thursday March 22nd, from 9:00 AM - 8:30 PM, at Potbelly Sandwich Works, IAD Concourse B (by gate B48). Members of the Colgan Pilots ALPA organizing committee and ALPA representatives will be on hand to nswer your questions and address your concerns.

All Colgan Pilots are welcome, whether you are commuting in to work, deadheading, or you just want to grab a bite to eat during a little down time between flights!

Let’s Make It Better!

The Colgan Pilots ALPA Organizing Committee

PS - Check your email and www.alpa.org/colgan for other ‘Join us for a bite to eat’ locations, dates, and times!

 

[Godfather]

It's the Godfather's Birthday!!!!

Who's card? Is it someones birthday? hahahahah

funny you should mention birthday on the same day that the OC will have free and REAL grub for everyone at IAD. Potbelly's for all and drink one in the Godfather's honor.

Now do what Sen Colgan does on his birthday and send a 50 spot as tribute to your Dom....lol! just kidding

or better yet in honor of my birthday....sign your A card and send it in now!

Who knows, I may just show up at Potbelly's too...

lovin life and in exile in Sicily

PS...for those of you wondering how I've been....I'm doin great and in good spirits...I haven't lost my mind or been thrown into the padded cell by the white coated orderlies as rumored. Can't say nothin here about what's goin on...

Thanks again for all your support and calls....Hope to be back flying soon

What are ya waitin for...go do the cards and get 'em in the mail!

 

[Mr Wu]

THat's funny, 2nd yr FO's just got a 13% raise without a union.

2nd yr FO's got a raise because of the union. Classic union busting tactic is to give the biggest group something and hope that it will buy their vote. Colgan's biggest group of pilots is the second year FO with all the hiring in 2005.

 

[borntwofly]

1. They don't have any idea what is going on with their pilots
2. They think we are stupid and that we have no idea what goes on in the
industry outside of Colgan

Yes on both parts. Not only do they not know what is going on with their pilots, the same goes for what their mechanics and their stations face.

The Colgan family style of mgmt is lies and intimidation. They have lost a large part of the latter over the years because of FAA oversight and growth. The Feds kept catching them redhanded and the company simply hired too many pilots too fast to keep the thumbscrews on all of them. I endured many years at Colgan. The greatest skills I learned from my captains were how to dodge the company bullets and keep the target off my head. I survived my keepin my mouth shut and working their system against them. They were and still are a very unorganized lot.

To the current Colgan pilots, it has been said that ALPA is not the solution.
I believe that to be true. But I strongly believe it is the lesser of two evils. A new era has begun at Colgan, and you will need a union and representation to do anything more than survive this. NO PILOT at Colgan EVER negotiated anything with the family. We always took what scraps they gave us, shut up when we got nothing, and found our own best deal. Not the best way for a group to succeed, but it was about survival. Get your time and get out before something happens. Don't take any bait and think they will make your life so good that you are better off not being represented. Just remember this, the granddaddy of them all is a POLITICIAN! And he taught everyone of them how to play the game for their personal benefit, which is not to yours.

Listen to ALPA, vote with your mind and your heart, but don't think things will get better if the family is left to their own devices to make it better for you. They are just trying to keep things calm enough long enough so they can wiggle out of their deals with Pinnacle and move on.