I wonder how long this one will take to "disappear".....SWA bashing! YEAH BABY!

[cl65capt]

I'm confused(I usually am). What your saying is that if the fares were more expensive then UPS would pay but since they are so cheap they wont pay?

 

[GuppyWN]

Let me get this straight? You get a paid ticket to get to work and you're bitching cause it aint enough? And if you jumpseat what happens to the stipen that UPS gave you for that DH?

Gup

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Let me get this straight? You get a paid ticket to get to work and you're bitching cause it aint enough? And if you jumpseat what happens to the stipen that UPS gave you for that DH?

Gup

Wow! You guys without knowledge of how UPS gets their crews into and out of position for trips astound me.

If a commuter, who does not live in their Louisville domicile, gets a trip that begins and ends in ONT then they get company paid travel into and out of ONT via airline. They then can trade that ticket value for a ticket to their home

If the original ticket is on SWA but SWA does not serve their hometown, out of pocket expenses are a paid for a positive space ticket.



GuppyWN,

Your sarcastic comment is arrogant at best. Freight dogs at UPS make squat the first year and can use all the help they can get.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Wow! You guys without knowledge of how UPS get their crews into and out of position for trips is astonishing.

If a commuter, who does not live in their Louisville domicile, gets a trip that begins and ends in ONT then they get company paid travel into and out of ONT via airline. They then can trade that ticket value for a ticket to their home

If the original ticket is on SWA but SWA does not serve their hometown, out of pocket expenses are a paid for a positive space ticket.



GuppyWN,

Your sarcastic comment is arrogant at best. Freight dogs at UPS make squat the first year and can use all the help they can get.

Congrats...it only took 5 pages before somebody CLEARLY explained what the intent of this thread is about.

 

[Falconjet]

Nothing personal against you, but they didn't do a good job when they hired that SWA FO idiot. Yep, I did get denied once. But then again, who hasn't...

Hey now, I didn't say they were perfect!

We are in violent agreement.

FJ

 

[SWA/FO]

No, I am not going to pay the difference because the difference is usually $300-$500!

That was your chance to "save" the industry. You could have pumped that extra money into an airline and they could invest into their employees.

Nothing personal against you, but they didn't do a good job when they hired that SWA FO idiot. Yep, I did get denied once. But then again, who hasn't...

Not me dumba$$, I got in my first time. Oh, and Auburn sucks..

 

[GuppyWN]

So back to my question. What happens if you don't take the flight? Do you get to keep the cash?

Of course I don't know how you're system works. You're coworker didn't exactly do a stellar job of explaning it.

All I know is that I don't get a paid ride to and from a DH. I like that about you. Even if you were a jerk about it.

Trust me bro. You'll know when I'm being sarastic.

Gup

 

[Falconjet]

Gup: I don't know for sure about Brown, but I'd guess their rules are similar to ours at Purple. If you don't use all of you deadhead money for tickets or other approved deviation travel expenses (airport parking, taxis, etc) that month (or the next) then the company saves the money. The pilot doesn't get to "pocket" the leftover amount.

Again, I'm only guessing that Brown works this way as well.

FJ

 

[Flopgut]

Well, I have written this many many many times before and I will write it....again. I used to really want to work for SWA. I am not "too macho" to admit it. I really really wanted it.......badly. They gave it to someone that told me personally "I don't want to fly a f***in 737 my entire life". If you claim I am bitter, then so be it. I was bitter about that for a long time. You are right, they did a good job since they didn't pick me for it because I would be a senior FO there and it would have been hard to leave that for UPS's 26K a year. I am much happier they way things turned out. You know that Garth Brooks song "Unanswered Prayers"? Well, that song rings so true. Maybe they are so good in the People Department that they could see the future....that the last thing I would want is to be at a passenger carrier. I have many many other reasons for being bitter with SWA but bitterness that I don't work there now is NOT one of them. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Your "Capt. Megadeth" and you just referred to a Garth Brooks tune!! What would Dave Mustaine think about that?

The difference is $300-$500? You live in ANC or HNL? That's a lot of dough...Is it based on full-fare, walk up everytime? You get the miles, right?

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

So back to my question. What happens if you don't take the flight? Do you get to keep the cash?

Of course I don't know how you're system works. You're coworker didn't exactly do a stellar job of explaning it.

All I know is that I don't get a paid ride to and from a DH. I like that about you. Even if you were a jerk about it.

Trust me bro. You'll know when I'm being sarastic.

Gup

Sorry. I'm getting used to the likes of SWA/FO...

Don't get to keep the cash. Just use it for approved expenses.


Gup, you're alright. Thanks for not flaming my too harsh response to you. I take it all back.

 

[canbrass]

3. MY POINT IS: If SWA fares were up WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, I would not have this problem.


Evidentially you have never heard of the Deregulation Act of 1978. It says, "The main purpose of the act was to remove government control from commercial aviation and expose the passenger airline industry to market forces." The market force it's refering to is called capitalism. If SWA can offer a flight for less, then the other carriers need to follow suit, or join the likes of Braniff, Eastern and TWA. I think you would be better suited to bash America West/USAirways, Delta, Alaska, Ted, and American for not lowering their fares to something more reasonable, especially when SWA can prove that it can justify what it charges and still make a profit. I haven't seen the other carriers posting a profit even with their higher fares.

 

[canyonblue737]

MY POINT IS: If SWA fares were up WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, I would not have this problem.

Mega... and I mean this seriously...

SWA has raised fares numerous times this last year, including this week. When the fares were at their lowest we made money. Now they are higher and we continue to make money.

I can understand how some criticize airlines who lower their ticket prices when they are bleeding money like crazy and in bankruptcy, but if you are making money with low fares, why should they be higher? Shouldn't other airlines figure out how to be efficient enough to do the same?

That said I sympathize with your problem and understand it completely, I just think the problem is with the unreasonable ticket prices of other carriers, not the low prices of a money making SWA.

 

[HA25]

All I have to say is.. "wow",

and 5 pages?

 

[Fins Up]

Can we please quit digressing and get back to talking about beer!

BEAT ARMY!

 

[720persecond]

First off she did not even apply at SWA. Next, do you really think she regrets being hired at UPS? Lastly, i agree with the silk stockings comment.

Mega in stockings ? No I've flown with her, and no thanks.
But I agree with you Mega, (yes agree !)...I wish fares could be higher too !

 

[capt. megadeth]

Do you get to keep the cash?



Gup

No, you don't get to keep the cash!

 

[SWA/FO]

No, you don't get to keep the cash!

that job sucks, you don't get to keep the cash!

 

[scoreboard]

So, let me get this right, your complaining that another companies fares are to low and that all the planes are to full and your company doesn't pay you enough to fly from your home to your place of business but you don't want to jumpseat?

It really is all about you, isn't it?

 

[capt. megadeth]

So, let me get this right, your complaining that another companies fares are to low and that all the planes are to full and your company doesn't pay you enough to fly from your home to your place of business but you don't want to jumpseat?

It really is all about you, isn't it?

Well of course it is!

Sorry to break this to you but you haven't gotten it right. I never said anything about any flights being full. The company doesn't "pay me" to fly from home. I don't mind jumpseating but I don't want to ruffle any feathers by doing so since the company does buy you a ticket. Why don't you read the thread first?

 

[canyonblue]

Sounds to me to be more of a contractual problem. UPS is minting money and the best you could get in negotiations is that POS for "airlining" out of your base. Next time negotiate better, and don't blame SWA, blame your Union if they didn't get a better stipend in the contract.