I wonder how long this one will take to "disappear".....SWA bashing! YEAH BABY!

[cl65capt]

I'm confused(I usually am). What your saying is that if the fares were more expensive then UPS would pay but since they are so cheap they wont pay?

 

[GuppyWN]

Let me get this straight? You get a paid ticket to get to work and you're bitching cause it aint enough? And if you jumpseat what happens to the stipen that UPS gave you for that DH?

Gup

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Let me get this straight? You get a paid ticket to get to work and you're bitching cause it aint enough? And if you jumpseat what happens to the stipen that UPS gave you for that DH?

Gup

Wow! You guys without knowledge of how UPS gets their crews into and out of position for trips astound me.

If a commuter, who does not live in their Louisville domicile, gets a trip that begins and ends in ONT then they get company paid travel into and out of ONT via airline. They then can trade that ticket value for a ticket to their home

If the original ticket is on SWA but SWA does not serve their hometown, out of pocket expenses are a paid for a positive space ticket.



GuppyWN,

Your sarcastic comment is arrogant at best. Freight dogs at UPS make squat the first year and can use all the help they can get.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Wow! You guys without knowledge of how UPS get their crews into and out of position for trips is astonishing.

If a commuter, who does not live in their Louisville domicile, gets a trip that begins and ends in ONT then they get company paid travel into and out of ONT via airline. They then can trade that ticket value for a ticket to their home

If the original ticket is on SWA but SWA does not serve their hometown, out of pocket expenses are a paid for a positive space ticket.



GuppyWN,

Your sarcastic comment is arrogant at best. Freight dogs at UPS make squat the first year and can use all the help they can get.

Congrats...it only took 5 pages before somebody CLEARLY explained what the intent of this thread is about.

 

[Falconjet]

Nothing personal against you, but they didn't do a good job when they hired that SWA FO idiot. Yep, I did get denied once. But then again, who hasn't...

Hey now, I didn't say they were perfect!

We are in violent agreement.

FJ

 

[SWA/FO]

No, I am not going to pay the difference because the difference is usually $300-$500!

That was your chance to "save" the industry. You could have pumped that extra money into an airline and they could invest into their employees.

Nothing personal against you, but they didn't do a good job when they hired that SWA FO idiot. Yep, I did get denied once. But then again, who hasn't...

Not me dumba$$, I got in my first time. Oh, and Auburn sucks..

 

[GuppyWN]

So back to my question. What happens if you don't take the flight? Do you get to keep the cash?

Of course I don't know how you're system works. You're coworker didn't exactly do a stellar job of explaning it.

All I know is that I don't get a paid ride to and from a DH. I like that about you. Even if you were a jerk about it.

Trust me bro. You'll know when I'm being sarastic.

Gup

 

[Falconjet]

Gup: I don't know for sure about Brown, but I'd guess their rules are similar to ours at Purple. If you don't use all of you deadhead money for tickets or other approved deviation travel expenses (airport parking, taxis, etc) that month (or the next) then the company saves the money. The pilot doesn't get to "pocket" the leftover amount.

Again, I'm only guessing that Brown works this way as well.

FJ

 

[Flopgut]

Well, I have written this many many many times before and I will write it....again. I used to really want to work for SWA. I am not "too macho" to admit it. I really really wanted it.......badly. They gave it to someone that told me personally "I don't want to fly a f***in 737 my entire life". If you claim I am bitter, then so be it. I was bitter about that for a long time. You are right, they did a good job since they didn't pick me for it because I would be a senior FO there and it would have been hard to leave that for UPS's 26K a year. I am much happier they way things turned out. You know that Garth Brooks song "Unanswered Prayers"? Well, that song rings so true. Maybe they are so good in the People Department that they could see the future....that the last thing I would want is to be at a passenger carrier. I have many many other reasons for being bitter with SWA but bitterness that I don't work there now is NOT one of them. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Your "Capt. Megadeth" and you just referred to a Garth Brooks tune!! What would Dave Mustaine think about that?

The difference is $300-$500? You live in ANC or HNL? That's a lot of dough...Is it based on full-fare, walk up everytime? You get the miles, right?

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

So back to my question. What happens if you don't take the flight? Do you get to keep the cash?

Of course I don't know how you're system works. You're coworker didn't exactly do a stellar job of explaning it.

All I know is that I don't get a paid ride to and from a DH. I like that about you. Even if you were a jerk about it.

Trust me bro. You'll know when I'm being sarastic.

Gup

Sorry. I'm getting used to the likes of SWA/FO...

Don't get to keep the cash. Just use it for approved expenses.


Gup, you're alright. Thanks for not flaming my too harsh response to you. I take it all back.

 

[canbrass]

3. MY POINT IS: If SWA fares were up WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, I would not have this problem.


Evidentially you have never heard of the Deregulation Act of 1978. It says, "The main purpose of the act was to remove government control from commercial aviation and expose the passenger airline industry to market forces." The market force it's refering to is called capitalism. If SWA can offer a flight for less, then the other carriers need to follow suit, or join the likes of Braniff, Eastern and TWA. I think you would be better suited to bash America West/USAirways, Delta, Alaska, Ted, and American for not lowering their fares to something more reasonable, especially when SWA can prove that it can justify what it charges and still make a profit. I haven't seen the other carriers posting a profit even with their higher fares.

 

[canyonblue737]

MY POINT IS: If SWA fares were up WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, I would not have this problem.

Mega... and I mean this seriously...

SWA has raised fares numerous times this last year, including this week. When the fares were at their lowest we made money. Now they are higher and we continue to make money.

I can understand how some criticize airlines who lower their ticket prices when they are bleeding money like crazy and in bankruptcy, but if you are making money with low fares, why should they be higher? Shouldn't other airlines figure out how to be efficient enough to do the same?

That said I sympathize with your problem and understand it completely, I just think the problem is with the unreasonable ticket prices of other carriers, not the low prices of a money making SWA.

 

[HA25]

All I have to say is.. "wow",

and 5 pages?

 

[Fins Up]

Can we please quit digressing and get back to talking about beer!

BEAT ARMY!

 

[720persecond]

First off she did not even apply at SWA. Next, do you really think she regrets being hired at UPS? Lastly, i agree with the silk stockings comment.

Mega in stockings ? No I've flown with her, and no thanks.
But I agree with you Mega, (yes agree !)...I wish fares could be higher too !

 

[capt. megadeth]

Do you get to keep the cash?



Gup

No, you don't get to keep the cash!

 

[SWA/FO]

No, you don't get to keep the cash!

that job sucks, you don't get to keep the cash!

 

[scoreboard]

So, let me get this right, your complaining that another companies fares are to low and that all the planes are to full and your company doesn't pay you enough to fly from your home to your place of business but you don't want to jumpseat?

It really is all about you, isn't it?

 

[capt. megadeth]

So, let me get this right, your complaining that another companies fares are to low and that all the planes are to full and your company doesn't pay you enough to fly from your home to your place of business but you don't want to jumpseat?

It really is all about you, isn't it?

Well of course it is!

Sorry to break this to you but you haven't gotten it right. I never said anything about any flights being full. The company doesn't "pay me" to fly from home. I don't mind jumpseating but I don't want to ruffle any feathers by doing so since the company does buy you a ticket. Why don't you read the thread first?

 

[canyonblue]

Sounds to me to be more of a contractual problem. UPS is minting money and the best you could get in negotiations is that POS for "airlining" out of your base. Next time negotiate better, and don't blame SWA, blame your Union if they didn't get a better stipend in the contract.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Sounds to me to be more of a contractual problem. UPS is minting money and the best you could get in negotiations is that POS for "airlining" out of your base. Next time negotiate better, and don't blame SWA, blame your Union if they didn't get a better stipend in the contract.

Blah blah blah blah


Another one that doesn't see the big picture.

 

[canyonblue]

Blah blah blah blah


Another one that doesn't see the big picture.

Maybe your big a$$ is blocking the screen.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Maybe your big a$$ is blocking the screen.

Maybe

 

[TAZ MAN]

I don't mind jumpseating but I don't want to ruffle any feathers by doing so since the company does buy you a ticket. Why don't you read the thread first?

Everyone has read the thread and can tell what a biotch with a drinking problem you can be.

Your the only one that can't see, again, what an irrational view you have on just about everything you bring up.

Why don't you find something more constructive to do than be a troll on this board.

 

[HA25]

Your the only one that can't see, again, what an irrational view you have on just about everything you bring up.

If you're married to a woman, or have lived with one for a duration of time you'll figure out soon that this is normal.

 

[capt. megadeth]

If you're married to a woman, or have lived with one for a duration of time you'll figure out soon that this is normal.

I don't think he's married.....the prik is drowning in the big kool aid pool

 

[737ski]

I get the big picture now. You want to raise ticket prices on the small business traveler, folks taking their kids to see grandma and maybe couples that don’t have the opportunity to live wherever they want because they have free air travel benefits. What you are suggesting is socialism—shift the financial burden to someone else, so that you can get what you want (at no cost to you, I might add)

Just take the jumpseat (like thousands of your fellow pilots that commute), save your company some money (oh, you don’t worry about that—just raise prices on shipping via brown, which I don’t hear too many on this board complaining about) and spare us your whining.

Another big picture I get is you really don’t understand the reason for SWA’s existence. We already make plenty of money, raising prices just because we can, would be classified as greedy. The overall health of the economy, along with supply & demand drive the aviation market pricing, simple economics. Take a class, and then get back to us on your weak position.

 

[ivauir]

Ok.....I will try to explain because everyone seems to think I "can't find a seat out of ONT". I DON'T LIVE IN ONT. I AM BASED IN ONT. I DON'T LIVE IN A CITY SERVED BY SWA! Therefore, since all my commercial DHs are scheduled out of ONT (a city served by SWA) and a lot of my trips start in cities served by SWA, the company index is so low (this is based on the walk up refundable fare) that I can't get a flight out of where I live (since it is not served by SWA) for under the index. Therefore, I am forced to j/s to get to work instead of using a positive space ticket.

1. No, I am not going to pay the difference because the difference is usually $300-$500!
Why would SWA revenue manegment care about this?

2. I can't move to ONT because then my fiancee would have to commute and it would not be fair to him.

And I would care because ....

3. MY POINT IS: If SWA fares were up WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, I would not have this problem.

Where should the fares be? High enough to pay our bills? High enough to make a profit? High enough to make you happy?

4. No, contrary to popular belief....it is not "all about me", it's about the frigging fares being so low that it's ridiculous. You SWAers can bash me all you want but the fact of the matter is is that if your company raised fares, SWA could make more money, you all could be paid better too! So, stop with the "capt. megadeth posted a SWA bash thread so we all have to get our panties in a bunch....oh no!" AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE!

Do you mean the big picture of how this affects you? Or do I really have to explain that when tickets are cheap we sell more of them?

5. Vetterracer.....once again....missed my point completely.

Perhaps if you used english or tried not to whine so much we'd understand you.

6. If you don't work for SWA, I don't think you should be bashing me either....everyone knows if SWA raised fares, other airlines could too and maybe your airlines would make more money.

7. FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME! I AM NOT BITTER THAT I DIDN'T GET HIRED BY SWA! I don't think I could handle all the koolaid....I would drown. I have many many reasons for my disdain and this is just another one of the many.

Seriously, this may be the funniest thing on the internet right now - do a search of your old posts. You are a bitter hag and I praise god, the jewish god and Tom Cruise that I'll never sit next to you.


8. FlyBoeingJets gets it.....why don't all of you? (I love you too man!)

Ok,
I've poured through this 5 pages of junk to find out that:
- Capt Death is bitter enough to start a thread dedicated to her disdain of SWA.
- Doesn't understand yield manegment (me neither, but at least I know what I don't know)
- Fails to understand the REAL rock music requires a single coil pickup, and that over drive is a weak excuse for true talent.
- I need another beer (or six)

 

[ivauir]

That was catharic!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharsis

Now we are all a little bit smarter!

 

[Flopgut]

Mega: Just be happy the frieght business wasn't dealt the equivilent of being de-regulated.