What are the chances of AA hiring again?

[sexybeast]

I currently am a SkyWest pilot living in Dallas. Not a bad gig, but I would really like to work for AA some day. I know Southwest is here too, but I really would like to fly international one day. Any chance of them hiring off the street in the next 5 or so years?

 

[Big Slick]

They gotta recall about 3000 furloughees first. That should take at least 5 years.

Of course, then they will hire you and furlough you for 5+ years. LOL

 

[xkuzme1]

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Do you mean EVER or just winthin the near future. Odds are that they will have to hire again sometime.

 

[HalinTexas]

Check out World (and North American), Omni and maybe a few other charter ops. Even NetJets. You might be flying int'l right out of training.

 

[IAHERJ]

You've always got the other major Texas carrier hiring and you'd get to go do some heavy international right off the bat. No better way to see if you like doing it than doing it in your first year. Then, if you hate it you are still young enough to go fly for SWA if that is something you have thought about or bid back to our 737 fleet and bid only domestic/carribean etc. type stuff. If you heart is set on the big AA, then you can always go that way in 5 years or whenever they start hiring. Despite what you may hear out there, many pilots have left one major for another over the years. My point is that you should take advantage of the hiring that is going on now and get out of the regionals. You can make another jump should you want but get somewhere where you can gain some seniority towards retirement should you never get the call from AA. That way you have a job paying well from which you can spend a career and retire from. Look at AAI as well. Good carrier with healthy pay and you can retire there. I flew for them for 3 years until CAL called. It wasn't easy to leave but CAL was my dream. The smartest thing I did was leave COEX for AAI(AirTran) because even if I never got a call from CAL, I could have had a nice career at AirTran. You follow?

IAHERJ

 

[Mr Hat]

When American gets going again, I'll bet no more than half of that 3000 actually go back. The longer they wait less and less pilots will go back. In 5 years you could have gotten something really nice going.

 

[glasspilot1]

I would really like to work for AA some day............. Any chance of them hiring off the street in the next 5 or so years?

Depends how long it takes for them to go through 3000 furloughes. How many will come back out of the 3000? Who knows?

If you do ever work here, be ready to just be a number at this Texas sized company.

 

[accinelli]

I currently am a SkyWest pilot living in Dallas. Not a bad gig, but I would really like to work for AA some day. I know Southwest is here too, but I really would like to fly international one day. Any chance of them hiring off the street in the next 5 or so years?

They'd start recalling faster if the Pilot Group had some sense and didn't go public with their refusal to fly the China route and impede AAs application for the China Route.

 

[psysicx]

Commuting from Dal to Ewr would be awful.

 

[catIIIc]

Commuting from Dal to Ewr would be awful.

Actually it was not that bad, I had a two leg commute through DFW to EWR and was not that with with CAL and AA as options. Never got bumped and never missed a trip. It was only for two months so I guess it could get worse.

 

[bayoubandit]

When will AA start hiring again, that's simple! About the time I get my recall. Ahh the joys of being the junior guy!

I've done the DFW-EWR commute many years ago. It wasn't that bad back then either.

 

[TWA Dude]

I'll bet no more than half of that 3000 actually go back.

I'll take that bet. The usual amount? (from Trading Places that means 1$) Historically, around ten percent don't return from furlough. Due to the age of the many ex-TWA furloughees and other factors this case will probably be closer to 20% -- but nowhere near 50%. Consider that over half of the guys who say they're never coming back actually shall.

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To answer the original question, rumor has it that AA's ten/month recall rate will increase dramatically later in 2007. Even a very optimistic view would have a minimum of a year or two before the whole furlough list has been offered recall -- more likely longer. Due to the three-year bypass option it's possible off-the-street hiring could begin before all furloughees are back but it's way too soon to tell.

 

[AAflyer]

They'd start recalling faster if the Pilot Group had some sense and didn't go public with their refusal to fly the China route and impede AAs application for the China Route.

You don't know Jack! Why would you negotiate something like a super long haul agreement outside of sect 6? Why? We have gone down the road of lower expectations, in fact ALL legacy carriers have.

It is time to push for a change in the opposite direction. If AMR wants China Flying so bad, then they can negotiate our contract includling super long haul.

Hell, when they negotiated the last contract under duress it was done in under a couple months.

Why don't you stick to bitchig about NWA, you are probably one of a handful I have met in MSP telling others what a great deal your past TA was.

AAflyer

 

[AAflyer]

I'll take that bet. The usual amount? (from Trading Places that means 1$) Historically, around ten percent don't return from furlough. Due to the age of the many ex-TWA furloughees and other factors this case will probably be closer to 20% -- but nowhere near 50%. Consider that over half of the guys who say they're never coming back actually shall.

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To answer the original question, rumor has it that AA's ten/month recall rate will increase dramatically later in 2007. Even a very optimistic view would have a minimum of a year or two before the whole furlough list has been offered recall -- more likely longer. Due to the three-year bypass option it's possible off-the-street hiring could begin before all furloughees are back but it's way too soon to tell.

I would have to agree to what TWADUDE said, however judging everyone that hates AA, and what a horrible place it is, I expect to be hiring off the street in a year as know one in their right mind would come back to such a horrible company.

AA

 

[wings421]

How does AA view STL as a long term base? I know that they pulled about half of their flights out of there what, three years ago? Since then its stayed pretty much the same size. Any rumors about its future in AA's plans?