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The dynamic right now is because we are short manned, everyone who would take you're trip, is holding out for premium pay from a company assigned trip.
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Tell me about it...I have two two-days in there that pay 16...in years (months) past, they'd have been gone in the first day. No one is touching my "garbage" now because the premium is so lucrative.
 
scoreboardII said:
Lear, I hear you, but over here, unless you're senior in base, you're not going to be able to drop or trade down from you're line. Like you, SWA is always understaffed. Except for the month of Feb.

The dynamic right now is because we are short manned, everyone who would take you're trip, is holding out for premium pay from a company assigned trip.

Take care.
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I was jumpseating home last week and met one of your pilots, really nice guy, we started talking about how our international lines looked and what MCO lines looked like and he basically said the same thing you did. No one's taking any straight drops right now with all the JVA available.

Guess it will be similar to here in those months: bid a line that's best commutable, max days off, let the credit fall where it falls and just fly my line. At least the money will be better! It's all good... :)
 
Some lines are commutable. But I find myself trading around so much that I rarely if ever fly a trip on my original line.
There is a TON of premium flying right now till the end of summer-but its damn hard to get rid of anything. I had one 3 day go next month but it had back to back SAN on the harbor. I have two 2 days that have been in give away all month.(1 to tpa 2 back paying 15.8) Use to those would have gone in 10 minutes.
JA is now on line only. So if your trip ends on Thursday or Friday you better pack extra clothes.
#2 Captain in LAS has done over 220tfp the last 2 months. Granted she is working her as off but that is over $40k per month.
 
ILUVURBANMYERS said:
Some lines are commutable. But I find myself trading around so much that I rarely if ever fly a trip on my original line.
There is a TON of premium flying right now till the end of summer-but its damn hard to get rid of anything. I had one 3 day go next month but it had back to back SAN on the harbor. I have two 2 days that have been in give away all month.(1 to tpa 2 back paying 15.8) Use to those would have gone in 10 minutes.
JA is now on line only. So if your trip ends on Thursday or Friday you better pack extra clothes.
#2 Captain in LAS has done over 220tfp the last 2 months. Granted she is working her as off but that is over $40k per month.
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She is a sweet person to fly with. When I was new she was like "honey let me show how to land this bird". She makes it look easy. I guess if you been here for 29 years it looks easy. Did the math 40k is it.
 
The first time the Airtran Mec president wrote to MVD of SWA you (at) all published the reply and had your circle jerk celebration of relative seniority is coming. Now the calculated word is that something brown is blowing back from the fan towards the Airtran group. Whatever word that comes out is not by accident. Expectations and opinion can be moved by either side. Reality versus fantasy is coming. SWA is not letting flightinfo decide corporate decision making.
 
ASADFW7 said:
The first time the Airtran Mec president wrote to MVD of SWA you (at) all published the reply and had your circle jerk celebration of relative seniority is coming. Now the calculated word is that something brown is blowing back from the fan towards the Airtran group. Whatever word that comes out is not by accident. Expectations and opinion can be moved by either side. Reality versus fantasy is coming. SWA is not letting flightinfo decide corporate decision making.
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What?

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They will be lucky to get stapled now is what I'm hearing. Probably no chance of that even.
 
ASADFW7 said:
The first time the Airtran Mec president wrote to MVD of SWA you (at) all published the reply and had your circle jerk celebration of relative seniority is coming. Now the calculated word is that something brown is blowing back from the fan towards the Airtran group. Whatever word that comes out is not by accident. Expectations and opinion can be moved by either side. Reality versus fantasy is coming. SWA is not letting flightinfo decide corporate decision making.
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And......that's exactly why we have a four party process agreement that is being followed to a "t". That's also why Airtran ALPA diligently acquired protection from SW management before the process started. We all sleep real easy on the AT side because of the above. I think SWAPA should sleep easy as well knowing that a "fair and equitable" solution will be arrived at. There's really no reason for the useless fear mongering folks.

It's great to be on board and I really look forward to flying with all SW pilots. Together we can be far more successful than either could have been alone. Cheers!
 
AFcitrus said:
And......that's exactly why we have a four party process agreement that is being followed to a "t". That's also why Airtran ALPA diligently acquired protection from SW management before the process started. We all sleep real easy on the AT side because of the above. I think SWAPA should sleep easy as well knowing that a "fair and equitable" solution will be arrived at. There's really no reason for the useless fear mongering folks.

It's great to be on board and I really look forward to flying with all SW pilots. Together we can be far more successful than either could have been alone. Cheers!
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Bravo my friend, Bravo!
 
The Process Agreement allows SWA to manage as they see fit. Be very careful what you ask for. We are still a long way away from having any list implemented.
 
roughneck said:
The Process Agreement allows SWA to manage as they see fit. Be very careful what you ask for. We are still a long way away from having any list implemented.
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Be very careful to understand that SWA and not swapa will manage this. Also be very careful in assuming that swa will side with swapa.
 
JonJon, that made me laugh. If you think they will side otherwise, you have alot to learn about this company. how funny.
 
All I know is that us Airtran pilots are appreciative of being now managed by SW. I imagine that if we are "well behaved" and incorporate the SW culture we will be treated fairly. If the SW pilots decide to "not behave" and stray from their 40 years of excellent culture management may not be pleased. The grievance on the SWA-Airtran One Luv decal on the 737's sent Bob Jordan through the roof. I plan on being a good boy and doing my best to incorporate the SW culture. I hope the SW pilots can treat us as they would want to be treated and vise-versa.
 
funnyman12 said:
All I know is that us Airtran pilots are appreciative of being now managed by SW. I imagine that if we are "well behaved" and incorporate the SW culture we will be treated fairly.
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Certainly that is true.

The grievance on the SWA-Airtran One Luv decal on the 737's sent Bob Jordan through the roof.
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I think some on the AirTran side have overactive imaginations. Our management team (Which includes Bob Jordan) don't get mad at their employees for enforcing their contracts. They get mad at the people who gave them the poor advice that lead to them violating a contract. They don't violate contracts for grins. I'd bet they thought putting a Tranny sticker on one of our planes was OK. Now they know otherwise.

I guess the proof will be in the pudding. We will see just how "pissed" he was when the grievance is finally settled. It is a section 1 grievance so it will be settled quickly. My money is on SWAPA and I doubt Bob lost any sleep over the sticker or the grievance.
 
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The grievance on the SWA-Airtran One Luv decal on the 737's sent Bob Jordan through the roof.
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Not as spooled up as they got over your MEC's letter.
 

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