XJT forces 47 PAX to sleep aboard aircraft in Rochester, MN?

[Hawker800]

I spent 11 hrs in the back of an F9 Airbus a few years back. Could not get in to Denver so diverted to Colorado Springs. They had no gates there. One guy was toted off by medics after awhile. Could not handle being in the tube for long. Toilets backed up. They had to open the doors to allow fresh air in. After many hours on the ramp I asked an FA how about a hotel for the night. She actually said they had a schedule to keep. Then a tow bar could not be found to handle the bus since the bus did not operate there. Several of us offered to push the thing. Actually we were going to make a run for it if we got off. I think they sensed this in that our offer was refused. Eventually the weather cleared and we got to Denver. Not alot of fun people. Not at all.

 

[SSDD]

Easy to fix...call the local news station...even in Rochester MN...

 

[WMUSIGPI]

4 words "I'm declaring an emergency!" End of discussion. At that point the ground ops and or airport authority can deal with the BS.

 

[SoCentralRain]

4 words "I'm declaring an emergency!" End of discussion. At that point the ground ops and or airport authority can deal with the BS.

Amen. Kids, just say the word. All is forgiven.

SCR

 

[jppt2000]

It becomes a TSA deal more than anything, to let pax out, not where there ticket says it should be.

I find that hard to believe.

Maybe you're thinking about letting them back on after they've left the aircraft.

Everyone could of been re-ticketed, and baggage rescanned in the morning.
XJT crew failed their pax.

 

[AWACoff]

There is no defense for the crew's actions. None.

 

[screech]

It becomes a TSA deal more than anything, to let pax out, not where there ticket says it should be.

Thats not right. Ive diverted to Non air-carrier airports and let people out. we cant hold passengers hostage. It's probably a felony. Lets see, kidnapping and hostage taking. Mmm... not good. In my 2 cases of this we told people they could leave whenever they want but they would be on their own to get to XXX airport. Most said ok and left. no problem. a few stayed and we got em liquored up.

Captains should be Captains and do the right thing.

rule #1. If whatever youre doing ends up on CNN or Fox News, you probably screwed up.

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

You think the guys up front wanted to keep the pax on board?? \

There was only 1 guy up front on that flight. CA was a Girl.
Woman trying to do a man's job in a man's world, what do you expect?

 

[SpeedRestricted]

There was only 1 guy up front on that flight. CA was a Girl.
Woman trying to do a man's job in a man's world, what do you expect?

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[Paul R. Smith]

People in glass houses should not throw stones.

Did the aircraft have stairs pulled up to it? The XJT ERJ has no airstairs so it requires ground personnel. Its a little high to jump out. It can be done but its probably a little hazardous for anyone over the age of 30.

 

[vectorvictor]

People in glass houses should not throw stones.

Did the aircraft have stairs pulled up to it? The XJT ERJ has no airstairs so it requires ground personnel. Its a little high to jump out. It can be done but its probably a little hazardous for anyone over the age of 30.

Go Screw! I'm 34 and I would have jumped, face-first, onto the pavement rather than be stuck on that plane for 9 hours. I would have found a set of stairs in less than 9 hours....s$%t I would have built a set in less than 9 hours.....I would have been calling every news agency I could get a hold of from the back of that plane. I probably would have called 911 and told them I was being held against my will.....grow a set...

 

[wms]

The pax need to be screened to get on, not off. I would've gone to the FBO, deplaned and worried about rescreening in the am. Then performed obligatory carpet dance later.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

The pax need to be screened to get on, not off. I would've gone to the FBO, deplaned and worried about rescreening in the am. Then performed obligatory carpet dance later.

Or better yet, let them off the airplane and put them on a bus to MSP, I don't think it's much more than an hour drive.

I wonder if the crew got paid for 12hrs of block? Nice way to inflate the pay check.

 

[LR25]

I wonder what kind of decision would have been made 35 years ago?

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

I usually ignore comments on the paper's web site for articles like this, but one guy had it right: this flight, from beginning to end, was marketed as a Continental flight...ticket was bought on a CAL website, a credit card bill from CAL, and checked in with a CAL agent. IMHO, to wind up on on an RJ operated by the lowest bidder is a bait and switch.

If it operates on the code, it should be required to be flown on the certificate. That would go along way to fixing this kind of crap.

Nu

 

[JoeMerchant]

Heyas,

I usually ignore comments on the paper's web site for articles like this, but one guy had it right: this flight, from beginning to end, was marketed as a Continental flight...ticket was bought on a CAL website, a credit card bill from CAL, and checked in with a CAL agent. IMHO, to wind up on on an RJ operated by the lowest bidder is a bait and switch.

If it operates on the code, it should be required to be flown on the certificate. That would go along way to fixing this kind of crap.

Nu

Yeah....this kinda thing never happens on a "real" airplane with "real" pilots....
http://blogs.wsj.com/middleseat/200...10-proof-we-need-a-passengers-bill-of-rights/

These Delta passengers were only held hostage for 8 hours...but is was on "big" airplane.

 

[79%N1]

Best solution ever! No more subsideries! All work done when buying a CAL, DAL, AA, UA, etc ticket MUST be done by the certificate holder! Now there is something to write your congressman about!!

 

[cybourg10]

^^^^^^^Yes

How about 121 carriers can not have alternates listed on the paperwork that will not have full services (TSA included) available if they have to divert.......might have to leave a few bags/pax and add fuel to get a suitable alternate.....wait never mind this is the airlines, lets do it the cheapest way possible.

This is an embarrassment for XJT....

 

[Mach92]

People in glass houses should not throw stones.

Did the aircraft have stairs pulled up to it? The XJT ERJ has no airstairs so it requires ground personnel. Its a little high to jump out. It can be done but its probably a little hazardous for anyone over the age of 30.

Knowing this why go to KRST? Your D O A with no ops no nothing.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

I just have trouble believing that with a plane load of people and 3 crew members, there was not 1 person assertive enough to get anything done.