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Tally Ho....drive me up the wall...

good buddy doing IOE:

new fo "tally ho traffic, 3 o'clock"

my buddy "you know, the only people who say 'tally ho' are fighter pilots and (english cigarettes) and what did you fly in the airforce?...."

new fo "uh...I was a cfi..."
my buddy "riiiiight..."

Dear Sir,

As a British fox hunter, it drives me crazy when you fighter pilots insist on stealing our "Tally ho!" call. Please cease and desist, post haste!

Sincerely,
Lord Belvedere Sandringham

Dear Sir,

As a Saracen fighter, I deplore the use of our "Tally Ho!" [Tal hum] phrase by
you English fox hunters. Please stop before a jihad is caused.

Sincerely,
Dirka M. Dirka
 
This proves my point that aviation draws certain distinct personality types. Unfortunately, "D-bag" is one of them.
 
Professional pilots sound like student pilots when they use "with you" in their initial transmissions to ATC. Here's a clue -- ATC knows you are "with them" by the fact you are talking to them! It's redundant and a waste of radio time....especially the stupid "checking in with you". Try dropping the "with you" crap and sound a bit more professional and like you've flown in other parts of the world. Next time you hear "with you" consider how stupid it sounds....and is. It's just a bad habit.

Also...drop the "Any chance..." when what you really meant to do is request something. i.e. "Comair 123 requesting direct xyz".

Goda says with you!
 
just got back to this thread after a few days.

This mach80 guy thinks so rigidly, I'd have to question if he's a captain at all. Otherwise, he just doesn't budge or have an ability to see things other than what's pedantic. This tells me he may just be flaming too. Check his profile out... yeah, 22K and 20 years and you've not loosened up or understood what shouldn't have to be explained. Proof of age 60 - you're getting senile pops.

Did your dog die or something?!
 
All I have to ask is this....

Why does it offend you guys so much when someone shows you the right way to do something? You guys are like a bunch of crying children who were told you have to run ALL the bases to get a point....

Why don't you try the old, tried and true STFU method?

I get so sick of you babying. I guess we should just drop all the structure of aviating and make no standard, that way you can all have your upgrade before you even learn how to be an FO, have your iPod, backpack, boots, queer looking hairstyles, and get to say things like "with you" and sound like an idiot but not care.

Grow up! High school is O-V-E-R!!!!

Every time someone points out something you could do better you start crying. Boo Frickety Hoo! You're no fun to fly with! You hurt my little feelings! Quit picking on me! I can do what I want!

Geez.

Terry, I was just going to quote part of your post, but upon re-reading it, there was nothing I could cut.
I couldn't have said it better myself.

Could he have said it more nicely? Sure. But mach 80 makes valid points that the vast majority of you are missing. The "regionals" section gets more ridiculous every day. Grow up guys. You represent this industry. Have some pride and discipline.
 
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"No Joy".......
 
Stop saying No Joy.............
 
Stop sayin Pause and Hold What the hell is that? Are you that lazy to say position and hold? Go home and play your X Box
 
Actually I never directly critique my F/O and how he talks on the radio. Rather, when someone else says "with you" I simply ask him, with a chuckle, if he ever thought how redundant and totally useless and stupid the phrase is. Usually they say something like - they never thought about it, but now that that you mention it, it IS stupid. I find if they had been saying it, they usually try to stop doing it having now realized how utterly dumb it is.

Now....as to things like "Have a nice day" --- another total waste of time. How mundane and insincere. As if...."I wasn't planning on having a nice day, but now that you mention it, I think I will." I especially like the guys who think they have to ask each and every controller they are "checking in with YOU (and not anyone else) ..how ya doing?" As if whatever the controller responds with...that is, IF he does.....means one iota to the pilot asking. It's like going into a store and the totally stranger clerk asks you "How are you?"...as if they really care...therefore I always thank them for asking and then go into a 30 second speil -- "my ingrown toenail got taken care of, the boil on my back got lanced yesterday and feels MUCH better now that it's almost all drained but I still have a little bandage for the last bit , the VD test results turned out negative, I finally got rid of that thing under my armpit....so I'm doing pretty well...thanks for asking!" Try it when walking in with your wife or girlfriend...she'll be impressed with you and not embarrased at all.

35 years in this buisness eh? How bout you pop a viagra, get laid and get a life. lol only losers like you actually worry about this crap. Who gives a crap. All that matters is a safe landing and no traffic conflicts by improper readbacks. The rest doesn't matter. Go to bed old man.
 
Professional pilots sound like student pilots when they use "with you" in their initial transmissions to ATC...Also...drop the "Any chance..." when what you really meant to do is request something. i.e. "Comair 123 requesting direct xyz".

I totally agree with you! To say "with you" is very unprofessional.

That's why I always say: "Atlanta Center... how y'all doin'?"

Also, I don’t ever ask: “any chance direct…?”

I just say: “hey - gimme direct ATL – will ya?” Always works! :)
 
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Who gives a crap. All that matters is a safe landing and no traffic conflicts by improper readbacks. The rest doesn't matter.

Are you serious? I hope you never upgrade, for the sake of every passenger who ever flies on your airplane.

Sure, "...with you" never killed anybody, but it's the pursuit of perfection that makes you a better and safer pilot. Your overall attitude of not giving a crap about doing your job well makes you a scary pilot whom I would never let my loved ones fly with.

And for the record, nonstandard phraseology (and poor CRM) has been responsible for several notable aviation accidents, including the worst aviation disaster in history. Some of you guys need to grow up.
 

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