"With you" "With you" "With you"

[Oakum_Boy]

I run to it, not away from it. It lets me go poo.

Alright, den.

 

[minitour]

...I'm not WITH YOU on this one.

Me either...I still don't use "With You" for that.

APP: Cessna 123, switch to my frequency 123.55
*switch*
Me: Approach, Cessna 123 on 123.55

No "with you" there...

-mini

 

[PAPA FOX!]

God has spoken, he doesn't say "with you" but still uses "over and out".

Tonight at my church we had a Christmas concert. The pastor said twice that Jesus Christ is "WITH YOU" tonight. How bout that one!!

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Me either...I still don't use "With You" for that.

APP: Cessna 123, switch to my frequency 123.55
*switch*
Me: Approach, Cessna 123 on 123.55

No "with you" there...

-mini

I see! So you say because you don't use it, then it must be incorrect, correct? That logic works only so long as you do not wish to continue the learning process. Does it not?

 

[minitour]

I see! So you say because you don't use it, then it must be incorrect, correct?

Wow, you're right, I did say --- no wait...I didn't say that.

Try again.

-mini

 

[CutEmUp]

How about this

Center: Execjet xxx say ride conditions

Pilot: Eastbound, hammered down, without a frown.

(I'm not kidding either. Netjets Falcon 2000)

 

[414Flyer]

do you need a hug?

No, Beavis just needs more crappucino for his bungholio

 

[SuperFLUF]

Yeah, "got em on the fishfinder" that's another winner.
When ATC calls traffic, you either have visual contact, or you don't. That's the only thing ATC wants to hear from you.

.................ATC is required to call the traffic and keep calling it until you see it, or you pass.) So telling the controller you "have em on TCAS" tells the controller nothing useful, and wastes time You may have noticed that even though somone calls "got em on the TCAS", the controller keeps giving point outs on the traffic..........

Its also dangerous.
I read an NTSB report on a near-miss (don't even start on this if you don't know what it means) between a Cactus 73 and a 402. The controller admitted she stopped paying attention to the VFR 402 because the 73 said they had him on TCAS. The 73 guys ended up badly injuring a flight attendant attempting to get back to their altitude after the TCAS RA was over.

Since I saw the Oct or Nov "with you" thread I now use WITH YOU at every possible radio call just to piss off the tight a$$es who started this whole thing.:uzi:

AND if you say "flight level three, five, oh" instead of "zero" but biotch about "with you" then you are not only a hypocrite but a loser as well.

I suppose I shouldn't say "see ya" to the controllers either since I'll probably never see them?....................

 

[atrdriver]

On the hole - I believe it's "On to hold" and I've only heard that from military guys here...SOP for them?

Well then you don't do much flying out of ATL. And yes, I believe it's Air Force, where "pos and hold" is Navy. Of which we have neither flying into and out of ATL, yet you hear it several times an hour.

 

[minitour]

Well then you don't do much flying out of ATL. And yes, I believe it's Air Force, where "pos and hold" is Navy. Of which we have neither flying into and out of ATL, yet you hear it several times an hour.

Possibly former military? Just speculating of course, but that could be why.

-mini

 

[Gorilla]

C'mon, this thread is dying adrift. Let's not forget:

"Aaaannnd, United 123 blah blah"

My all time favorite - "Delta's 385 blah blah blah"

Last but not least is the "switch but no listen" maroon. The swap button is pressed, and immediately the mike is keyed with a big-voiced WITH YOU announcement, completely blocking a complex reroute or a holding clearance to another aircraft.

 

[say again]

nooo nooo nooo I answered with post #49.. See how pathetic my life is, but then I have my priorities straight, I knew exactly who Shakira was, but couldn't care less about who says "with you". Oh, and cheers!
AK

I'll cheers "with you"!!!!! :beer:

 

[PacoPollo]

"with you..." with any European accent.....

 

[say again]

What about the bumbling fuc$s that read novels on the air, just to say there location?!?!?!

 

[b82rez]

Loser

Losers

 

[Stepclimb]

Military and Phraseology

"On to Hold" and "Clearance on request" (when talking to C/D) seem to be unique to the Air Force. I remember that the emphasis placed on us in UPT was get the point across on the radio with a short and succinct transmission. The key to doing that was to know and use proper phraseology. Adding fluff like "with you" and "checking in" would garner stern disaproval from most IP's.

In regards to "N123AC with a request" tying up the frequency, the word "request" often works well in the following situation:

You: "123AC, request direct ABQ"

ATC: "123AC, make that request with ABQ center, 125.82, good day"

You: "125.82, 123AC"

You: "Center, 123AC, level one-two thousand, request"

ABQ center: "123AC, go ahead with request (or standby)"

Now of course, if the new freq is not busy at all, the request for direct to the specific fix can be placed in the 4th transmission above, but an initial call-up that is as brief as possible seems to work the best.

Another common faux-pas that seems to crop up quite often is the use of the word "point" when discussing altitude on the radio. Taking the time to say "Cessna 123AC climbing one-thousand fife hundred to maintain four-thousand" on initial call up to departure is the correct method as opposed to "123 Aey Sea wit ya thru one point five for four"

It all boils down to the 'ol law of primacy with one's initial instructor regarding radio useage and the willingness for one to know the proper way of doing things and the discipline to professionally utilize the radio as tool of your craft.


On a related note, am I the only one that cringes a little when folks commonly misuse homynms (sp?) such as their, there and they're as well as your and you're? It makes me wonder why some airlines don't just have us write a short 5 paragraph paper on some aviation related topic as part of the interview process. I imagine they could garner a lot about the quality of one's education from that. Just my .02.

-Stepclimb

 

[A Squared]

On a related note, am I the only one that cringes a little when folks commonly misuse homynms (sp?) such as their, there and they're as well as your and you're? It makes me wonder why some airlines don't just have us write a short 5 paragraph paper on some aviation related topic as part of the interview process. I imagine they could garner a lot about the quality of one's education from that. Just my .02.

-Stepclimb

No, I cringe too, but having said that, occasionally when I'm proofreading someting I wrote, I find these abused repeatedly. I know perfecly well how they're, their, there, your, you're and yore are used, but somewhere between my brain and my typing fingers something short-circuits.