Why don't the regionals bring back PFT?

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With today's tight job market for regional wannabes, if I were in management at a regional, I would bring back PFT. I have no doubt that there would be hundreds/thousands willing to pay the airline for initial training to fly an RJ. The precedent has already been set. Most senior pilots at regionals like Comair, ASA and XJT are PFTers. Plus, now there would be many more partners other than FSI in which to do the initial training with. The regional airline could take bids from the training estabilishments on who could give the airline the "cheapest" training while still charging the wannabe the full price. That way the airline would make even more money off the wannabe.
 

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With today's tight job market for regional wannabes, if I were in management at a regional, I would bring back PFT. I have no doubt that there would be hundreds/thousands willing to pay the airline for initial training to fly an RJ. The precedent has already been set. Most senior pilots at regionals like Comair, ASA and XJT are PFTers. Plus, now there would be many more partners other than FSI in which to do the initial training with. The regional airline could take bids from the training estabilishments on who could give the airline the "cheapest" training while still charging the wannabe the full price. That way the airline would make even more money off the wannabe.
As long as the cost of obtaining your ratings continues to rise, I doubt you will ever see PFT. How much was it start to finish 10 years ago when places like Comair did PFT? It was well under 30K at the pilot shops such as the Comair Aviation Academy(at the time) and Airline Training Academy, All ATPs. I believe it was around 10K for the airline training. What do you think a bank would say today when you ask to take out over 100,000K to then make 20K a year. Good luck getting a bank in todays economy to agree to that.
 

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AllATPs has been cutting their prices to spur business. Flight schools are going out of business all over the country. I don't think anyone would have much luck with charging $25k for a job right now.
 

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Hasn't student enrollment and pilot certification gone way down?

I don't think there's a great pool of folks loking to be pilots anymore. At least not in this economy.
 

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In order for airlines to charge for training they have to be doing training.
 

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AllATPs has been cutting their prices to spur business. Flight schools are going out of business all over the country. I don't think anyone would have much luck with charging $25k for a job right now.
awesome! advice from the ultimate PFT'er. Had to know you wouldn't have an objection to the idea.
 

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Had to know you wouldn't have an objection to the idea.
Not sure where you got that from, but I certainly object to the idea. I'm just saying that it wouldn't be very successful even if they tried.
 

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Not sure where you got that from, but I certainly object to the idea. I'm just saying that it wouldn't be very successful even if they tried.
oh yeah, I forgot.....now that you're in, PFT is a bad thing...thats right, sorry short term memory ain't what it used to be.

but hey, keep up the alpa cheerleading....its working wonders.
 

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AllATPs has been cutting their prices to spur business. Flight schools are going out of business all over the country. I don't think anyone would have much luck with charging $25k for a job right now.

Why $25K? How did you come up with that number?
 

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Forget PFT at the regionals for a moment. Lets say someplace like Delta did PFT. How many of you would PFT to work at Delta? How much would you be willing to pay to work for Delta?
 

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Forget PFT at the regionals for a moment. Lets say someplace like Delta did PFT. How many of you would PFT to work at Delta? How much would you be willing to pay to work for Delta?
an embarrassingly HUGE number.

although, if I had PFT'd at ASA back in the early 90's or late 80's I might be someplace else by now. And I guess if you want to stretch far enough....PFT'ing isn't much different than going to college, passing a few courses to get the degree to get a job. Just less classy :)
 

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1st year pay is so low at UPS, you essentially paid for your training.
 

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Forget PFT at the regionals for a moment. Lets say someplace like Delta did PFT. How many of you would PFT to work at Delta? How much would you be willing to pay to work for Delta?
I'm too lazy to go looking through the DAL contract, but some contracts prohibit PFT. They might not even be able to do it if they wanted to.
 

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I'm too lazy to go looking through the DAL contract, but some contracts prohibit PFT. They might not even be able to do it if they wanted to.
I'm thinking it was a rhetorical question....used to make a point.
 

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1st year pay is so low at UPS, you essentially paid for your training.

Not me. I was well prepared for fist year pay. Our second year F/O pay is $122/hr, 118,950/yr. How does that compare with your pay?
 

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I'm thinking it was a rhetorical question....used to make a point.
Actually, I think the whole thread is just flamebait. Check the original poster's history. He's always posting flamebait crap.
 
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