When is jetblue hiring??

[Fins Up]

Ask the good PHD to send it to you.

That's a good idea. Somebody has do something about it other than b!tch on flightinfo.

 

[Splert]

That's a good idea. Somebody has do something about it other than b!tch on flightinfo.

Getting involved is pointless.

If you are not aligned with what the company wants you are frozen out.

Just ask the other 4 PVC members.

 

[Fins Up]

I am not concerned about being frozen out of anything. I'll check into it, even if my efforts amount to nothing. I'm only here to fly planes, not climb the company ladder.

Thread hijacking complete.

 

[lanilila]

What kind of experience do people have who have been showing up at the job fair? Im hearing 7000+ hours and internal recs is competitive.

 

[skysurfer76]

hey guys, got the invite to the campus : ) I'll be in on the Friday tour at 9am....looking forward to it...!

I have heard good things about JB from some friends that went to the Monday tour..they enjoyed it and felt it would be good place work, if given the opertunity, Seems like a "somewhat" laid back place..... put treating the passengers like customers again...instead of freight : )

 

[UpNDownGuy]

Jesus, Skysurfer-

You really make career decisions based on what your friends heard at a M&G? Come on...

If you want to be on reserve for 5+ years, and an FO for 20+, come to JetBlue. They can fix you right up.

Great place to work if you're one of the brain-dead "it's better than Mesa crowd".

 

[johnboy99]

Jesus, Skysurfer-

You really make career decisions based on what your friends heard at a M&G? Come on...

If you want to be on reserve for 5+ years, and an FO for 20+, come to JetBlue. They can fix you right up.

Great place to work if you're one of the brain-dead "it's better than Mesa crowd".

You seem like such a nice person to be around. What is the reserve time and upgrade like at Airtran, SWA. Got a bud at SWA going on 3 years reserve now commuting all the way across the country. How about the folks that went to CAL for the 3 year upgrade. How long is that going to be now and we won't even talk about UAL. Whats the upgrade like at US Air. 23 years or is it 26. What about American upgrade at least 20 years?? Sounds like its the industry norm at the moment huh???

Fact. Jetblue is a 10 year old company with growing pains. They have a long way to go but have also come a long way. I'd say if jetblue comes as far in the next 10 as they have in the last 10 it might be a pretty good place to be. You just need to get your head out of your butt and look around at every other company that flies an airplane. If everybody keeps merging you will be looking at a furlough, 5 years on reserve if you are lucky or a 20 year upgrade at any other company.

 

[Headfake14]

Jesus, Skysurfer-

You really make career decisions based on what your friends heard at a M&G? Come on...

If you want to be on reserve for 5+ years, and an FO for 20+, come to JetBlue. They can fix you right up.

Great place to work if you're one of the brain-dead "it's better than Mesa crowd".

Uh...wow...are you an industry expert on upgrade times and career advancement.

Attention moron...lets see, AA still has about 1500 furlough, Delta hasn't hired in over a year...240 this yr I hear, UA-still has furloughs, Spirit-still furloughs, SWA-no current plans to hire..yet.

...ASA and Comair even still have furloughs.

Soooooo...what would be your most awesomeness plan for a career airline?

I believe it is you sir who is the brain-dead one.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

You seem like such a nice person to be around. What is the reserve time and upgrade like at Airtran, SWA. Got a bud at SWA going on 3 years reserve now commuting all the way across the country. How about the folks that went to CAL for the 3 year upgrade. How long is that going to be now and we won't even talk about UAL. Whats the upgrade like at US Air. 23 years or is it 26. What about American upgrade at least 20 years?? Sounds like its the industry norm at the moment huh???

Fact. Jetblue is a 10 year old company with growing pains. They have a long way to go but have also come a long way. I'd say if jetblue comes as far in the next 10 as they have in the last 10 it might be a pretty good place to be. You just need to get your head out of your butt and look around at every other company that flies an airplane. If everybody keeps merging you will be looking at a furlough, 5 years on reserve if you are lucky or a 20 year upgrade at any other company.

But... All the legacy guys are hitting 65 alot quicker than the blue boys

 

[Headfake14]

Griz...yes, we have a young pilot group. Very few in the 60s. So most of our upgrades will be from growth. It's been stagnant for a while...but that will change. 11 (4-190s..7-320s) ships this year...I think 10 next (which I bet will increase). First delivery is June.

Which also means in about 5yrs time...those of us already here will see a rapid increase in upgrades...or bid line improvements.

There is NO perfect place to go right now if you're looking for a quick upgrade. I believe those days are gone for a loooong time. I'd rather be at a good company in the right seat with decent pay than at a dump in the left seat. Are we (JB) perfect. No way. We have some issues...but I'm happy here.

 

[Joblu]

Check back in 2 years.

You don't know this yet but the Band of Blue is trying to get the company to exempt reserves from duty, trip rigs and daily credits.

In other words reserves will only credit block and probably actual or historic whatever is less.

This place is a very sick place for those not hired in 2005 or before.

Good luck.

You are a f*ckin idiot.

 

[Splert]

Settle down girls.

The band of blue have a position page that is floating around written by the Dr.

He thinks that reserves under the new FSM have the best rules in the industry at JetBlue and the savings would pay for additional retirement and medical insurance for our pilots who are out sick.

He is neglecting to mention the company doesn't have the slightest clue what the fix for our retirement is but he wants to trade reserves work rules for a fix that hasn't been determined.

Who is the f*ckin idiot?

Highlighting a difference between other airlines and what the new FSM extends to reserves is not supporting the new FSM.

He says that other airlines extend reserves into days off without pay protection. Does he think JetBlue providing pay protection to reserves extended into a day off is fair?

I don't think so. He supports a reserve being extended without pay protections like trip rigs, daily min and duty mins. What else is there? Block and that is it.

You all better get used to the FACT that the surface seems smooth but there is a under current at JetBlue.

The band of blue marches on!

 

[Dizel8]

Dr. Dumb should be muzzled and that right quick. He certainly doesn't represent the pilots in anything he does, but only the company.

Hard to imaging, but we have pilots working hard to make this a worse place to be,

 

[Fins Up]

I contacted the "Dr." myself to ask him about some proposed changes regarding rigs and reserves. He said he has heard nothing about that. He's either lying through his electronic teeth or this is just a big fat rumor. I'm thinking the latter.

 

[Dizel8]

Regardless of whether the latest is true, the gent has done enough damage already, if you are his friend, maybe you could tell him as much!

His "list" should have spelled the end for him ever being involved with anything related to the pilots!

 

[Fins Up]

Regardless of whether the latest is true, the gent has done enough damage already, if you are his friend, maybe you tell him as much!

I don't konw the guy. Never met him, never flew with him. I just heard his name attached to this rumor and wanted to check it out.

 

[Dizel8]

Well, he also claimed the "list" didn't exist, just until someone got a copy of it, then the back pedaling started!

Yep, the company also got hold of a copy, as confirmed by a couple of ACPs.

Not saying this latest rumor is true, just that I wouldn't be too terribly surprised!

 

[Splert]

All I can do is paraphrase emails. Posting them violates the terms of most chat boards. The fact are simple. The doctor could forward his band of blue white paper to you.

He is also a member of the working group for the FSM.

 

[jaxgus]

He is also a member of the working group for the FSM.

I don't know who is saying he was on the team working on the FSM. He did not participate in the design process of any of the rules.

He was asked to participate in a independent financial review of the FSM before it was finalized. The team was compromised of a Flight Ops manager, three WRC members, two CBC members (he's a CBC member) and two dudes from Corporate Finance. This team worked for a grand total of four weeks and their review was never completed because of other events.


Gus

 

[Splert]

I contacted the "Dr." myself to ask him about some proposed changes regarding rigs and reserves. He said he has heard nothing about that. He's either lying through his electronic teeth or this is just a big fat rumor. I'm thinking the latter.

He didn't hear about proposed changes. He wrote that we should trade these guarantees for retirement and health insurance.

 

[Dizel8]

The good Dr. considering prior events, should not have been part of anything involving this pilot group. If he wants to be management that is his choice, but his interest and those of the pilot group are not aligned.

Sadly, he isn't the only person in those groups that desperately wants to join management, right jaxgus?

Good thing this so called direct relationship is taking place behind closed doors, the pilot group would be rightfully peeved if the full truth of the shenanigans were ever made public.

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

Do you guys have a point?

Are you really complaining that one member of the pilot group (if true) has a different opinion on how the the benefits package should be distributed?

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt any of us agree exactly on anything.

 

[Dizel8]

HOF,

I think it is a bit more complicated than that! If you ask around, you'll hear all kind of interesting things, from the people who were involved!

 

[Splert]

Do you guys have a point?

Are you really complaining that one member of the pilot group (if true) has a different opinion on how the the benefits package should be distributed?

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt any of us agree exactly on anything.

Not at all. He is part of committee that has no term limits and was appointed and not elected. That is the difference. He is not really just 'one member of the pilot group'.

He is also taking part in the development of a dialogue that will soon take place. The players will be management and the band of blue and the story they are trying to develop is that the PVC is dominated by JBPA supporters and that is the reason why items like our retirement and health care are not being fixed. JBPA has an agenda and it is getting in the way of the company fixing things.

He and the band of the blue once the dialogue begins will try IMO to supplant the PVC if the pilot group buy into this especially if JBPA supports block vote another 3 members onto the PVC in October. If so then all 7 PVC members will be JBPA supporters.

The current is swift below the calm surface of Jetblue.

 

[jaxgus]

Sadly, he isn't the only person in those groups that desperately wants to join management, right jaxgus?

Contrary to the falsely circulated information regarding me, I have no desire to work in Forest Hills or Long Island City. Did I have a desire to lead the pilot corps in the past, yes, but my ideological leadership philosophy has never aligned with Forest Hills.

It was a pleasant experience living the lies circulated about me by our peers because they were unhappy with the process created by our management. I don't hide behind my screen name nor do I keep information from my peers as I have been accused; talk to anyone who has ever asked me a question. Since you have insinuated my actions are motivated by titles and dollars you obviously don't really know me. I will let my actions speak for themselves.

For the record, I have not been offered a management position. I am not on merit pay. I am not on project status. I am not interviewing for any management position. My current status is sitting reserve in MCO.

Gus

 

[Dizel8]

Jaxgus,

I don't think I insinuated that you or anyone in specific was looking for money or a title, but you know as well as I, that there are some people on those committees whose agenda is much too aligned with management.

 

[greyskyracer]

hi

Could someone please tell me the name of JetBlue's chief pilot and the head of recruiting? Also tell me if the chief pilot works out of the corporate HQs in Forrest Hills or does he/she have an office in terminal 5?

Thank you

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

You guys are a real class act talking trash about someone while hiding behind your screen names.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Did you read the Dr's email to the Band of Blue?

Sign up at: [FONT=&quot][email protected]

Have them send to you Bill's "FSM Short Comments" letter.


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DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THAT GROUP. When that list gets out, and it will, it will be sent to out to the unions. Don't make life hard for your commute if you aren't onboard with their agenda. The BoB list is already at ALPA and APA from what I hear.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

You guys are a real class act talking trash about someone while hiding behind your screen names.

I wouldn't pi$$ on Gus or the PVC if it was on fire. It's nothing personal. Those that choose to work within the system, even if their intentions are noble, do nothing but undermine the careers of the "rest" of us JB pilots. You know, us in the bottom 1300.

It's time for the amateurs to stop. Better yet: let's get all the military bubbas out of Dave Barger's inner sanctum.

Kinda sad that Gus is getting his panties all twisted over this stuff. Is he that naive?

Or are you? Welcome to the Internet.