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Hi!

My buddy just interviewed at Colgan. Said there was one UPS guy there.

cliff
GRB
 
Hi!

I don't think you have to resign at Colgan. Found out there is not training contract, which I had read about elsewhere...I think it's like Compass' training contract...it just never really materialized and/or faded away.

cliff
GRB
PS-I DO know guys that are very unhappy at UPS, and wish they were somewhere better!!!
 
Well, this morning I heard from a friend that interviewed with Colgan just last week. He said, Colgan does have a training agreement of one year pro rated. According to my friend, Colgan was very brief about the contract. As if, they did not wanted the crew members to know about it.
 
Why would anyone consider going to jetblue? It seems like a dead end job with no hope for upgrade and a fleet that is shrinking... arrival of four E-190's and the return of up to five A320s for the remainder of 2010 from what I was told from someone who works there. I guess they've also deferred future deliveries as well. I don't mean this as flame, but it seems like it is a dysfunctional airline with an uncertain future. Do they have a five year plan? Do they have a strategic ten year plan? Will Lufthansa bring the company into the Star Alliance? Are my countrymen going to force jetblue to spend money on building them up to make them more marketable for parting out to other carriers? Why aren't they able to compete effectively against Virgin and Spirit? I'm sure Delta, Southwest and Airtran would love to see the elimination of competition for the low hanging fruit of the low yield Florida markets. I know much of this could be said of any airline today, but it just seems, in my opinion, jetblue is aimless...

Funny thing is ... I agree with you. I've been her 4 plus years and I wouldn't recommend it as a career airline. If only you could see what JB is doing to us via work rules right now and their version of a direct relationship.

But what these bubbas on this board won't do is alude to any of that -- it's par for the course to defend your company on flightinfo, even when that same company, er "the Corporation", is moving to deny pilots an appropriate resolution to a rather significant contract dispute. Apparently this 5 year indvidual contract thing isn't that good after all (I say with sarcasm).

JB ain't bad -- on the outside. And much of what you see on the inside is "okay". But there are significant issues in there that make JB less attractive than it used to be (when all those Mesa bubbas came for $78/hr wages, ha).

Standing by for the cultish "if you don't like it leave" comments ...
 
Funny thing is ... I agree with you. I've been her 4 plus years and I wouldn't recommend it as a career airline. If only you could see what JB is doing to us via work rules right now and their version of a direct relationship.

But what these bubbas on this board won't do is alude to any of that -- it's par for the course to defend your company on flightinfo, even when that same company, er "the Corporation", is moving to deny pilots an appropriate resolution to a rather significant contract dispute. Apparently this 5 year indvidual contract thing isn't that good after all (I say with sarcasm).

JB ain't bad -- on the outside. And much of what you see on the inside is "okay". But there are significant issues in there that make JB less attractive than it used to be (when all those Mesa bubbas came for $78/hr wages, ha).

Standing by for the cultish "if you don't like it leave" comments ...

Dont listen to chef he was in the military...



okay all kidding aside he is right. Jetblue is a good job and after 5 years i am making a decent living but we have seen some real steps back in relationship with management. We work our butts off here and have asked for industry average everything. On the outside the candy coating shell looks like industry standard while the round table is trying everything to lower employee costs.

example: talk of how they gave an industry leading night override of $13 per hr or approx $75 on a red eye

reality: they eliminated the 13:30 rig.. trip would pay 13:30 that now pays 11:00 ish with a $75 night over ride

Do two back to back lose $500 to make $150

just one such example
 
Dont listen to chef he was in the military...



okay all kidding aside he is right. Jetblue is a good job and after 5 years i am making a decent living but we have seen some real steps back in relationship with management. We work our butts off here and have asked for industry average everything. On the outside the candy coating shell looks like industry standard while the round table is trying everything to lower employee costs.

example: talk of how they gave an industry leading night override of $13 per hr or approx $75 on a red eye

reality: they eliminated the 13:30 rig.. trip would pay 13:30 that now pays 11:00 ish with a $75 night over ride

Do two back to back lose $500 to make $150

just one such example

Correct but you must add that they have also removed most of those trips. There are only a few left that would even be affected by the old 13:30 rig.
 
Disregard the Chef…this must be his first airline job….welcome to aviation.

Hey, I merely call it like I see it. I am no more attached to JetBlue than I am to my mother-in-law. I tolerate them equally.

Emotionally speaking, I gave up on this career a long time ago.

Welcome to aviation? Ha. 17 years of doing it, and now I get the welcome wagon? Thanks!
 
Hey, I merely call it like I see it. I am no more attached to JetBlue than I am to my mother-in-law. I tolerate them equally.

Emotionally speaking, I gave up on this career a long time ago.

Welcome to aviation? Ha. 17 years of doing it, and now I get the welcome wagon? Thanks!

More like welcome to civilian aviation. ;)
 
Please tell us you have more then 4,000 hours in 17 years. I guess you actually have to fly now. I understand why you’re over it.
 
Please tell us you have more then 4,000 hours in 17 years. I guess you actually have to fly now. I understand why you’re over it.

Well keep in mind he (chef) is looking at 20-30 more years and wanting the best he can.

Nothing like you. Just trying to hold on for the next 3-5 years living it up at ole jetblue. I know you had it really bad at your last charter company and count yourself lucky. Not to be spraying soy-fields during your last days flying (as your career trajectory was heading) must be awesome for you! You might feel that your background and squandered chances have put you in a position of "knees touching floor" thanking Jetblue for a shiny jet.

Shame on Chef for believing that this profession dictate rewards. He's doing this while pilots such as yourself have been "selling-out" and "lowering the bar" for decades!?

Thanks for all you do (and have done)
 
Please tell us you have more then 4,000 hours in 17 years. I guess you actually have to fly now. I understand why you’re over it.

Well, I could have said that I had 4,000 hours upside down, which is gotta be more than you have on an actual yoke (sans autopilot).

But then I guess I should just tell the truth ... my flight hour breakdown:

4,000 OCF
150,000 NVG
100,000 Green Ink
6,000 Case I pattern
50,000 Behind a KC-135
50,000 Behind a KC-10
6,000 in the Dirty Shirt
100,000 above 5G's
30,000 within .5 mile of another plane
4,000 at Jetblue

Total: 400,000


Man, Sail -- you think I should actually update that profile someday? Yeah, I will get right on that.

Seriously -- are we gonna go down that road AGAIN?
 
Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Willis?

7 airbus anounced today

4 E90's already on the plate this fall

Unless this new FSM is just that magical, we gonna need more bodies. I'd guess classes for late summer/fall to be ramped up for the holidays.
 
Great news!

Think long and hard before giving up seniority at another gig to sit at the bottom of the list here.

03:00 show on the first day of 6 days on reserve with a 21:00 release on your last day make this schedule effectively an 8 day reserve period.

That is what is in store for new hires.

Sorry. Unless you can live in JFK or BOS then commuting to that schedule for the next 2 years will burn a hole in your soul no matter how much blue juice you have in your dome.
 
Hi!

JB starts hiring tommorow.

Reserve schedule crap? My last line was 270 on/45 off.
I would prefer reserve at JB!

cliff
GRB
 
Hi!

JB starts hiring tommorow.

Reserve schedule crap? My last line was 270 on/45 off.
I would prefer reserve at JB!

cliff
GRB

If 6 days off at home per month is good then welcome aboard I guess.

Others may want to know exactly what to expect of a JetBlue new hire QOL.
 
trust me it beats 4 months straight of being home...no question about it.
 
trust me it beats 4 months straight of being home...no question about it.

I hear ya!

I wish everyone luck and I hope once on the property we don't continue to suffer from that mind set.

The key to the interview is to tell stories that will convince the team what you posted is true: that no matter how bad it gets you will continue to find a bright side by comparing the current situation to what is worse.

Good luck...
 
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I hear ya!

I wish everyone luck and I hope once on the property we don't continue to suffer from that mind set.

The key to the interview is to tell stories that will convince the team what you posted is true. That know matter how bad it gets you will continue to find a bright side by comparing what is worse.

Good luck...

If you are looking for work JetBlue is a decent place to be. An before you attack me I am 100% behind the current ALPA drive. But then again I am also a mid seniority Boston based E190 CA.
 
If you are looking for work JetBlue is a decent place to be. An before you attack me I am 100% behind the current ALPA drive. But then again I am also a mid seniority Boston based E190 CA.

JetBlue is certainly a good place to work.

If (fill in the blank)...

Since when is providing information on what a new hire can expect an attack.

Unless you live in base and since the reserve assignment process in FLiCA is automated a junior guy should expect 03:00 first day on reserve. They will be junior here for a long, long time. I would expect at least until 2012.

What are you telling guys to expect?
 
JetBlue is certainly a good place to work.

If (fill in the blank)...

Since when is providing information on what a new hire can expect an attack.

Unless you live in base and since the reserve assignment process in FLiCA is automated a junior guy should expect 03:00 first day on reserve. They will be junior here for a long, long time. I would expect at least until 2012.

What are you telling guys to expect?

I believe they have changed this in the new FSM and now starts and finshes (plus last day releases) are going to be by time. That shound even things out a bit for those on the bottom of the rsv list. Also, I did a yr of rsv (2 yrs ago) and I never had to work 6 on. That is a choice you must be making. You can work 4 or 5 on (thats what I did) and still have an ok qol. The summer months can be rough and it really helps if you commute from a city on the east coast with a early and late flight in/out but I almost always got home on my last day and was able to come up on my first day about half the time. Best of luck to everyone.
 
I bid for 6 on and can't get it!

You will get the E190.Plan on RSV in BOS JFK or MCO. RSV in MCO has been going pretty senior. If you get MCO you may have a line sooner than you think.

$47 hr 75hr a mo.

Summer will work your a$$ fall is cake and winter will work your a$$.

Everyone has done the commute,did it for 9 years, but I moved to a base and it changed my life, I recommend it.

It's better than any Regional I've seen (2), but it's not Delta or SWA so don't come here thinkin that. I think I've made the right choice right now, I'll know in about 34yrs.


Good Luck!

Vote ALPA
 
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When are those 7 Airbi coming? :-)
 

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