What's up at Gemini?

[flypixs]

Talking about the Amex cards at GAC. No word from the company and the union. The main reason the cards got cnx is that GAC did not pay the bill of 1/2 mill+. Can you blame Amex for pulling the plug? And no, none of the pilots is going to use their personal cards, only the hard core overtime donkeys

 

[pilotyip]

Funny I just got a call of GAC pilot who turned down DC-9 F/O slot in November. Wants to know if it is still open. I told him no we filled it with a 500 hour CFI, in November.

 

[Colonel Savage]

... I told him no we filled it with a 500 hour CFI, in November.

Why do you guys hire such low time pilots? There are qualified transport catagory pilots availible by the hundreds right now.

 

[HA25]

Why do you guys hire such low time pilots? There are qualified transport catagory pilots availible by the hundreds right now.

because their the only ones who will put up with that kind of bottom feeder for any length of time. That 500hr cfi hasn't yet figured out that its all a wasted effort with the industry in ruins right now.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Hopefully he's a fast learner and will consider a different line of work...or not

PHXFLYR

 

[AMDFlyer]

Funny I just got a call of GAC pilot who turned down DC-9 F/O slot in November. Wants to know if it is still open. I told him no we filled it with a 500 hour CFI, in November.

Did you have to humiliate the guy making him aware that such position has been filled with a 500 hr CFI, what kind of professionalism is that ?...let's use some courtesy and diplomacy you might be that gentlemen tomorrow looking for a job and you would like to be treated with dignity even if you have to listen to a negative response from a potential employer.

 

[HA25]

One second thoughts, the more important question to Yip is.. why?

Why in this time with 23000 hour ATA captains looking for jobs are you putting a 500 hour pilot into a jet that requires a good bit of situational awareness and flying skill? Why burden your captains with him? Why take risks with your passengers? What if that CA is incapacitated?

Tell me a lot about your outfit.

 

[GogglesPisano]

One second thoughts, the more important question to Yip is.. why?

Why in this time with 23000 hour ATA captains looking for jobs are you putting a 500 hour pilot into a jet that requires a good bit of situational awareness and flying skill? Why burden your captains with him? Why take risks with your passengers? What if that CA is incapacitated?

Tell me a lot about your outfit.

Probably because the 500-hr wonder is more "motivated." uke:

 

[pilotyip]

Sign of the times in the hiring boom of 2007

Probably because the 500-hr wonder is more "motivated." uke:

One second thoughts, the more important question to Yip is.. why?

Why in this time with 23000 hour ATA captains looking for jobs are you putting a 500 hour pilot into a jet that requires a good bit of situational awareness and flying skill? Why burden your captains with him? Why take risks with your passengers? What if that CA is incapacitated?

Tell me a lot about your outfit.
(It tells you we fill our classes with most qualified pilot available when we have class, BTW he was much more qualified than the 250 hour pilot we hired in May of 07s)


The 500 hour CFI was the most qualifed pilot in our pool in October of 2007. The more qulifed pilots found other jobs or tuned us down waiting for the results of another interview. Most 23,000 hour pilots were going after what they presumed would be better jobs at GAC, CAL, Spirit, etc. ATA, Max Jet, Skybus, KHC, etc were still employing the 23,000 hour pilots at time so they were not looking

 

[Buckeye]

Becuase we all know that flying freight is below all you pre-madonna's. So when you get furloughed from your job at XYZ airline you come sniffling back to cargo. I remember when some cargo outfits couldn't find pilots in the late 90's FedEx/UPS. Now you guys drop to your knees and praise how great they are and how stable they are. That 500 hundred hour pilot is on his way up, and that 23,000 hour pilot is on his way down. The kid will be appreciative of the opportunity, the old timer will stay till he finds something better. Sorry kids thats the way the ball bounces. If you are chasing that Legacy job, you might want a quick shot of reality.

 

[pilotyip]

Did you have to humiliate the guy making him aware that such position has been filled with a 500 hr CFI, what kind of professionalism is that ?...let's use some courtesy and diplomacy you might be that gentlemen tomorrow looking for a job and you would like to be treated with dignity even if you have to listen to a negative response from a potential employer.

The conversation went something like this, "I am sorry to hear things are not working out at GAC, you know we had to fill that slot last November when you turned us down. Wish you were here. If you are still interested in working for USA Jet I will put your file back into our active pool. We have no hiring plans at this time, due to no turnover, but that can change on short notice if our fleet expansion plans come together. Please stay in touch and lets us know of your availibility. Best of luck"

 

[HA25]

Becuase we all know that flying freight is below all you pre-madonna's. So when you get furloughed from your job at XYZ airline you come sniffling back to cargo..

Too bad USA Jet flies pax in their DC9's too..

 

[waka]

Did you have to humiliate the guy making him aware that such position has been filled with a 500 hr CFI, what kind of professionalism is that ?...let's use some courtesy and diplomacy you might be that gentlemen tomorrow looking for a job and you would like to be treated with dignity even if you have to listen to a negative response from a potential employer.

Ditto on that! pilotyip, a simple "no, that position has been filled" would have sufficed. It is unprofessional to rub it in by telling him that you hired a 500 hour guy......completely unnecessary information

 

[8sugarsugar]

Ditto on that! pilotyip, a simple "no, that position has been filled" would have sufficed. It is unprofessional to rub it in by telling him that you hired a 500 hour guy......completely unnecessary information

Back in 2005, I applied at USA Jet along with every other flying job in the world. At the time, I did not meet any of the minimums, including USA Jet.

Dozens of airlines I applied to, USA Jet is the ONLY airline to send me a personal e-mail explaining that I did not meet the minimums but urged me to re-apply.

I thought it was cool

 

[8sugarsugar]

USA Training

One second thoughts, the more important question to Yip is.. why?

Why in this time with 23000 hour ATA captains looking for jobs are you putting a 500 hour pilot into a jet that requires a good bit of situational awareness and flying skill? Why burden your captains with him? Why take risks with your passengers? What if that CA is incapacitated?

Tell me a lot about your outfit.

Its all in USA Jet's training program. Even if they have 500 hours, a rock solid foundation has been formed to build experience.


ATA or ABX pilots would be miserable at USA Jet anyway.

 

[pilotyip]

Did not hire a 500 hr CFI

Ditto on that! pilotyip, a simple "no, that position has been filled" would have sufficed. It is unprofessional to rub it in by telling him that you hired a 500 hour guy......completely unnecessary information

You notice I used the word filled, in accordance with our policy if we do not have pilots with the hours to bid DC-9 F/O we reserve the right to hire off the street. Since we could not find anyone off the street with 2000TT and 1200 ME we put out a bid in house and offered it to the senior bidder who at that time had 300 hours in the DA-20. He went through training with no problem and scored the highest on the final exam in ground school. Hours do not make the pilot, training does. BTW you will notice in my response to him, I did not tell him whom we filled the slot with. BTW2 When we started our passenger public charter in Puerto Rico last month, the airport and TSA said it was the smoothest start up operation they had ever seen. We do it right
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[boeingdriver]

Hey Buckeye,

Maybe you ought to re-read your own quote!!

It could be you on the street next month.

 

[727gm]

pre-madonna's

It's "prima donna"

What's up with Gemini?

 

[GogglesPisano]

Becuase we all know that flying freight is below all you pre-madonna's. .

That's Prima Donna (Italian for "first lady") thank you very much.

Unless of course you're calling us Louise Ciccone. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006021503682

 

[Buckeye]

I stand corrected it should be prima donna.