What's up at Cherry Air?

[propilot]

Are they back in business? Did they ever actually go out of business? They are advertising for a Falcon Captain and FO to start later this month.

 

[TheSulaco]

They never filed for chapter 7. The one falcon has been flying all week. How are things up north?

 

[propilot]

Things are slow but good. Furloughed in April, so just hanging out playing Daddy day care, and currently out at Whidbey Island, WA playing Navy for the rest of the month.

 

[Way2Broke]

They have people furloughed and are advertising for off the street?

 

[clydefastly]

They have people furloughed and are advertising for off the street?

Why is it that some jerk has to come on here and assume that every company has a union, or gives recall rights? Why do you have to turn everything into a union issue? If there was a union at Cherry the would shut the doors, and if you knew anything about the company that would be obvious.

They are asking for people that already have a flacon 20 type and experience. So don't be a DB and put 2+2 together, they are asking for layed off employees back. They are not a union shop so they usually have to hold out to the public for any openings, even if people are already being considered for the position. The thing is that guys who were let go,even in this economy, probably wouldn't go back.

 

[TheSulaco]

Why is it that some jerk has to come on here and assume that every company has a union, or gives recall rights? Why do you have to turn everything into a union issue? If there was a union at Cherry the would shut the doors, and if you knew anything about the company that would be obvious.

They are asking for people that already have a flacon 20 type and experience. So don't be a DB and put 2+2 together, they are asking for layed off employees back. They are not a union shop so they usually have to hold out to the public for any openings, even if people are already being considered for the position. The thing is that guys who were let go,even in this economy, probably wouldn't go back.

Not to mention both of them have found other flying positions.

 

[cherry20's]

Hey Clyde, W2B actually knows what Cherry is all about... I got him an interview there last year when he got let go from USA Jet. Thing is, I don't get why he is making a big deal about it?!!! People weren't furloughed, they were let out of their contracts... No union at Cherry and he knows that! Why bother making a big deal about it? Beats me!

 

[Fliteidol]

Why is it that some jerk has to come on here and assume that every company has a union, or gives recall rights? Why do you have to turn everything into a union issue? If there was a union at Cherry the would shut the doors, and if you knew anything about the company that would be obvious.

They are asking for people that already have a flacon 20 type and experience. So don't be a DB and put 2+2 together, they are asking for layed off employees back. They are not a union shop so they usually have to hold out to the public for any openings, even if people are already being considered for the position. The thing is that guys who were let go,even in this economy, probably wouldn't go back.

Easy there hoss! I thought it was a legit question.....no big deal. Good luck to all at Cherry. First jet I ever flew was a Cherry 20. A lot of folks got their start there.....all the best!

 

[clydefastly]

Hey Clyde, W2B actually knows what Cherry is all about... I got him an interview there last year when he got let go from USA Jet. Thing is, I don't get why he is making a big deal about it?!!! People weren't furloughed, they were let out of their contracts... No union at Cherry and he knows that! Why bother making a big deal about it? Beats me!

Well hell if I know then.

 

[clydefastly]

Easy there hoss! I thought it was a legit question.....no big deal. Good luck to all at Cherry. First jet I ever flew was a Cherry 20. A lot of folks got their start there.....all the best!

Sorry, I've been hanging out in the frac boards too much lately. Everything over there is pro/anti union bs.

W2B, Sorry if your question was legit.

I need to go take a shower now and get all of this flightinfo off me.

 

[dhawk41]

Yeah things are looking up over here. They are just trying to get anouther crew up as fast as possible I believe the guys that got let go are given the oppurtuntiy to reapply but I think most have moved on or are not in a postions to come come back. I hope it keeps going and the rest of the industry will follow soon I have always heard that the ondemand industry leads the industry.

 

[Way2Broke]

Yes it was a legit question, because I was offered a Capt slot with them, turned it down, and if I would have taken it I would have been the Capt on the street. I think alot of good people have past through Cherry's doors, but at the time my priorities were somewhere else (not so much anymore). I chose the stability of Cape Air at the time, which was a great experience during a nasty down turn. I'm not a guy that comes on here starting smack. It was a sincere questions, and I am glad the other guys already have flying jobs. I just got back into a Turbine PIC job, flying freight again, which I am very thankful for. There were other things in the equation too with saying no thanks to Cherry, like if I would have I wouldn't have had Michigan pay for a 737 type, and I would have had to be there in 4 days from Michigan. I think if you know what type of flying they do, and know what living on a pager is all about, then it would be a good gig. BUT, I have yet to figure out the stability of the small upturn in the on-demand flying. Is it "cash for clunkers" or is it a real upturn. Only time will tell. I for on am just happy that someone may get a job.

I think you guys read too much into the question, and maybe just asking the question came across the wrong way, but I just didn't get why if they had people that "they got current" on the street, why they would hire from the outside. It is because the other folks already have new jobs, thanks for the answer. (Run-on, sorry)

 

[cherry20's]

I think Clyde said it best... It's the Fractional section that did us in on the union question. No harm, no foul buddy! Glad you got a new job. What you flying and who for?

 

[Way2Broke]

Scheduled UPS run in a BE-99 for Freight Runners out of MKE. I think it will position me well for jobs a few years from now. I do greatly miss the Falcon 20 though, but I have come to terms with the fact that the on-demand job that I had no longer exists, and probably will never exists in its capacity again. Time to chase new, better dreams. Big picture, right? You have no idea how lucky I feel to still be flying.

 

[clydefastly]

W2B, Sorry again. Over on the Frac Boards "thems are fightin words". I forgot where I was when I got my smart a$$ on.

Its good to hear that you are still flying. Good luck and stay safe.

 

[Way2Broke]

No worries, just don't touch my Taco Palneque and we will always be friends.

 

[TxPilot0878]

Y It was a sincere questions, and I am glad the other guys already have flying jobs. I just got back into a Turbine PIC job, flying freight again, which I am very thankful for. There were other things in the equation too with saying no thanks to Cherry, like if I would have I wouldn't have had Michigan pay for a 737 type, and I would have had to be there in 4 days from Michigan. I think if you know what type of flying they do, and know what living on a pager is all about, then it would be a good gig. BUT, I have yet to figure out the stability of the small upturn in the on-demand flying. Is it "cash for clunkers" or is it a real upturn. Only time will tell. I for on am just happy that someone may get a job.

I don't understand your post or your "QUESTION?" You start off by quoting unions then your RESUME (seriously) and why you woulnd't work there then stating the volatile nature of Automotive freight! Dude I am confused because you first stated that you wanted a job there!

Secondly why mention the stable economics of Cape Air where you said you work if you have taken a turbine job.....chill killer!!!!

Tex

 

[Way2Broke]

I don't understand your post or your "QUESTION?" You start off by quoting unions then your RESUME (seriously) and why you woulnd't work there then stating the volatile nature of Automotive freight! Dude I am confused because you first stated that you wanted a job there!

Secondly why mention the stable economics of Cape Air where you said you work if you have taken a turbine job.....chill killer!!!!

Tex

I never stated I wanted a Job at Cherry Air, I stated that it would be a good job for someone else. I looked into the company over a year ago, interviewed then, and took Cape Air instead, because I was hedging my bets on the fact that the downturn in automotive freight had not hit rock bottom yet. I was right.

I never mentioned anything about Unions, another poster did.

I took what I consider to be a "Stable" Turbine job to leave Cape Air. Although, there probably is not such a thing as any stable flying job.

I asked a question if they were hiring off the street when they have people that they trained on the streets. I got my answer, and it is that those people are no longer on the street. Otherwise, I would guess that Cherry would rather have a "known" around than a "unknown."

Thanks for reminding me why I post on a message board where, "Pilots Help Pilots."

 

[Megalops]

No worries, just don't touch my Taco Palneque and we will always be friends.

That was Bill Haldens most favorite place in the WORLD, as a new hire years ago I saw him order and eat the whole left side of the menu. RIP Bill.

 

[FR8dognit]

That was Bill Haldens most favorite place in the WORLD, as a new hire years ago I saw him order and eat the whole left side of the menu. RIP Bill.

"I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six"

another Bill Halden line....he was one of a kind that's for sure. Learned a lot from that guy.

God Speed Bill...

 

[SquirrelDog]

What's a Union?

Good Ole Bill introduced me to TP, A legend to the freight world! RIP Captain Halden.

SD

 

[caddydaddy]

Cherry Air's Falcons were brought back up and funded by Tailwind. Mike Wood is there now.

 

[cherry20's]

That's not completely accurate... All Tailwind has done is front Cherry fuel money and paid for hotels/airline. That was my understanding at least. Cherry still does MX and pays pilot salaries. MW is over at Tailwind and that is one of the biggest reasons Cherry is still afloat. The other is the DO running the place with Steve R gone!!! They also have a new DOM in the hanger which will help dramatically...

 

[Way2Broke]

I saw a Cherry Falcon in MKE last night, it's nice to see some freight moving around! Apparently the bid boards are extremely busy these days.

 

[100-1/2]

WTB-

I am glad it is working out for you. Real semi-success story to be back in the saddle so soon after the scrub down in YIP. I would caution you: I hope Freight is turning good dough off the UPS side, [having had UPS contracts and being familiar with their $$ brutality] those margins simply cannot be covering the on demand side where Freight is quoting work @ <$650/hr in the -99. It is a tough market even with the synthetic "upturn" for companies to be 'banking' on volume.

I try to refrain from fear and loathing on these boards for obvious reasons. But, want to make sure you are keeping the res polished and your eyes open for opportunities to get back into larger part 25 equipment. Particularly when the motors of several Freight aircraft start creeping into TBO/HSI territory simultaneously.

100-1/2

 

[cherry20's]

I saw a Cherry Falcon in MKE last night, it's nice to see some freight moving around! Apparently the bid boards are extremely busy these days.

That was dhawk... He has been flying his arse off!

 

[Way2Broke]

WTB-

I am glad it is working out for you. Real semi-success story to be back in the saddle so soon after the scrub down in YIP. I would caution you: I hope Freight is turning good dough off the UPS side, [having had UPS contracts and being familiar with their $$ brutality] those margins simply cannot be covering the on demand side where Freight is quoting work @ <$650/hr in the -99. It is a tough market even with the synthetic "upturn" for companies to be 'banking' on volume.

I try to refrain from fear and loathing on these boards for obvious reasons. But, want to make sure you are keeping the res polished and your eyes open for opportunities to get back into larger part 25 equipment. Particularly when the motors of several Freight aircraft start creeping into TBO/HSI territory simultaneously.

100-1/2

I have a ace up my sleeve just in case this happens. I learned my lesson about freight a little over a year ago. Here today, gone tomorrow. Unless UPS pulls down some runs I think I have a secure job though. But hey, crazy things happen, and your right, it is vital to have a plan B, but if your lucky you never have to exercise it.

 

[Way2Broke]

That was dhawk... He has been flying his arse off!

Was he the one with all the hooters girls that were loading the freight for him? I must learn his methods.

 

[dhawk41]

I flippin wish

 

[Way2Broke]

Maybe it was all the Victoria Secrets models that were escorting that load of freight?