"What's next now for AA/US possible merger'

[Turtle21]

Settled for the majority will not float in the court of law. Stay tuned for several more years of LOA 93 for you and your majority....

We can speculate all we want to about how broad a wide range of reasonableness is according to the SCOTUS, but the fact remains the only way to get an answer to that question is after a ratification. When the company wants to move forward they will. In the mean time enjoy your weekend.

 

[ableone]

The list's most controversial component placed a 56-year-old pilot with 17 years at US Airways, who was never laid off, behind a 35-year-old America West pilot with a few months on the job. In hundreds of similar cases, east pilots with 15 or more years at the carrier went behind west pilots with just a few years.

Nice. I think that is something every pilot should except and should not fight. Just like selling out scope. Just except it. Next code share and then cabotage. Except it and move on.That is the General way of doing things.

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When the east pilots stupidly went all or nothing by not allowing their committee to do anything but shout DOH! DOH! DOH! during negotiations they set themselves up for failure.

When you shout all or nothing sometimes you get nothing.

Not to mention that MCDU, and a lot of east pilots, don't understand the difference between seniority and longevity.

That 17 year USAir pilot had no bidding power before nor after the list.

The east wanted to transform that 17 year bottom FO reserve into a lineholding captain at the expense of west pilots.

They wanted to steal jobs. They had no integrity and apparently neither do their spoiled children (MCDU).

BTW MCDU did you go to college because you don't seem to know the difference between except and accept. Good thing there is not an essay portion on airline application forms. Oh wait! I forgot! You don't fly for an airline.

 

[Goodstick]

Quick question for the US Air folks from a future AA'r. If there is a merger with AA, do you anticipate all the quarrels to continue except in three ways? There has to be a way to find common ground? Maybe have APA represent?

 

[JetMonkey]

Quick question for the US Air folks from a future AA'r. If there is a merger with AA, do you anticipate all the quarrels to continue except in three ways? There has to be a way to find common ground? Maybe have APA represent?

There can't be a "three way" because the west has no representation for that senario..

 

[reepicheep]

I thought the most controversial part of the award was that 15 junky little mini-widebodies somehow equated to 517 pilot slots, and they all - FO & IRO slots included - went to the top. The east is right; he is a crazy senile old man.

 

[General Lee]

I thought the most controversial part of the award was that 15 junky little mini-widebodies somehow equated to 517 pilot slots, and they all - FO & IRO slots included - went to the top. The east is right; he is a crazy senile old man.

The East agreed to Nicalau as the arbitrator, and before he gave the award, he gave huge hints to the Easties to revise some of their wants, and they didn't take his advice. Your MEC chair at the time blew it, and you Easties put him there. It's your fault! Sad but true. So, don't agree to binding arbitration if you won't accept the award.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[charlie2]

The East agreed to Nicalau as the arbitrator, and before he gave the award, he gave huge hints to the Easties to revise some of their wants, and they didn't take his advice. Your MEC chair at the time blew it, and you Easties put him there. It's your fault! Sad but true. So, don't agree to binding arbitration if you won't accept the award.


Bye Bye---General Lee

That's why we don't have an MEC any more...I'm not sure what part you're not understanding Private.

 

[eaglesview]

You are way too wrapped up in this to just be a Delta pilot. Either you are shacking with a AWA pilot, you are just a paid instigator, or you are the original "Move2Clt", natural born hater.

I was thinking the same thing, why does he care so much.

 

[General Lee]

I was thinking the same thing, why does he care so much.

Maybe I have good friends who are West (AWA) pilots? Maybe I think the Easties are a bunch of wheenies because they disregarded BINDING arbitration? If you don't care, you should ask yourself, why not? It can affect all of us, people just disregarding agreements within our profession. It was totally wrong, and they need to pay for that, and they will eventually. Talk about giving a handshake and crossing your fingers behind your back......but I guess you don't really care.....you have other things on your mind obviously...



Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[eaglesview]

I have had several binding agreements with UAL and in other arenas in my life. Some of them were broken. Life happens

 

[TWA Dude]

Thanks for trying once again to rationalize the East's actions. USAPA apologist.

 

[eaglesview]

No sweat, anytime.

 

[Count Dracula]

Hey Sulley. Anyways.......You guys were going to EAT it or go CHAP 7. Them's is the facts. AWA got a mortgage and bought your butts. They did. You then agreed on binding arbitration, and your MEC chair even said NIC was a good guy to do it. Then, when NIC was ready to give his award, he told your guy to come around and try to work it out. Did your guy take NIC's advice? NOPE. IDIOTS. You could have changed the pay, the work rules, etc with a NEW contract, but instead, your A320 Captains make less per hour than I do. What a joke. You guys have helped ruin this profession by showing you can say NO to a handshake, a BINDING award that honorable men would abide to because they AGREED to it. But NOOOOOOOO, you instead are just a joke.


Bye Bye---General Lee

This profession was doomed years ago General when the likes of Eastern, Braniff and Pan Am went....Bye Bye as you say. Where were all the Union brothers then? That's right...they were trying to figure out what boat to upgrade to or what lake to buy their cabin on for the summer. Your worried about a BINDING award? There's no LOYALTY, let alone anything BINDING in this profession. Go watch another episode of American Greed.....you'll see some BINDING there. Have a nice day!

 

[JumpersAway]

So, in an effort to stop the laundering of the same ole' dirty laundry, can we get back on topic here? What is next with American and USAirways? I'm beginning to wonder if American will even be around to merge with soon.........

 

[General Lee]

This profession was doomed years ago General when the likes of Eastern, Braniff and Pan Am went....Bye Bye as you say. Where were all the Union brothers then? That's right...they were trying to figure out what boat to upgrade to or what lake to buy their cabin on for the summer. Your worried about a BINDING award? There's no LOYALTY, let alone anything BINDING in this profession. Go watch another episode of American Greed.....you'll see some BINDING there. Have a nice day!

Thanks Orville Wright! You sound really old and "experienced", grandpa. It's 5pm, time for you to go to bed! I can't wait for the East to get smacked eventually, and at least you are keeping your below average pay. Couldn't happen to a better group!



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[vetrider]

Thanks for trying once again to rationalize the East's actions. USAPA apologist.

Eastiesview.

 

[JECKEL]

Now that Comair is gone General Lee has to have somewhere else to spread his hatred and contempt.
Looks like he has set his sights on the U*S Air east coast.

 

[B-atch]

The Generals obvious Impotence manifests itself by his habitual venting on matters in which he "lacks control".. I didn't come up with this. Sigmund Freud would have a field day with the general..

 

[General Lee]

The Generals obvious Impotence manifests itself by his habitual venting on matters in which he "lacks control".. I didn't come up with this. Sigmund Freud would have a field day with the general..

Hahahahaha! I just like picking on jerks. You guys fit the bill. If you sign up for anything BINDING, follow it. Otherwise, everyone thinks you lack integrity and are complete losers. I bet the APA will watch you like a hawk, and if you do merge, their larger numbers plus the Westies will vote away your precious "union", and I will be laughing. Enjoy your continued train wreck.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Angus Khan]

There's nothing to say about the merger because all parties involved have to keep their mouths shut at this time. I think this means it's serious and likely going to be announced before the end of the year. IMO.
And, as a former Tway guy sitting at the bottom of AA's forever stagnant seniority list, I fully anticipate the merger will suck, promises will be broken, a bunch of us will lose our jobs again, and every effort will be made to protect the lifestyle and bennies of the top 30% of the seniority lists. That's the way it works in this giant pyramid scheme of a career. Past performance doesn't guarantee future returns, but it sure seems that way.