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redflyer65

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1. Two recent Rep recalls.
2. Minimal communication regarding the TA.
3. No Executive Summary, even though voting has started.
4. Still negotiating LOA's even though there's a TA. (Why?)
5. No published payscales associated with TA.
6. Voted to approve a TA that appears inadequate by the pilots.
7. Already admitted that the Reserve section is bad, after above.
8. Hasn't finalized the Bonus method after 5 yrs. (after voting has opened)
9. Favoring a W-2 method for the bonus that is not supported.
10. Skipping picketing events to pickup extra flying/credit.
11. Still no hard copy of the TA available. (after voting has opened)
12. Paying a terminated pilot over 150,000 dollars from union
dues and folding on the greivance. (Hostage?, really..)
13. Roadshows that aren't well orchestrated. (after 5yrs)

These are the items I'm hearing from the line pilots.

Things seem to be a little off base.
 
Probably some serious "back room" dealing. Something similar probably happens at a lot of other places in order to get the MEC to choke down something awful.

I can think of other places where just about everyone on the MEC wound up getting posh upper mgmt. positions not long after a contract was signed.
 
These guys had been getting bought off of trips for 5 years and they can't come up with a simple executive summary or formula for the bonus distribution? Truly pathetic. There will be a lot to answer for in the next election cycle.
 
1. Two recent Rep recalls.
2. Minimal communication regarding the TA.
3. No Executive Summary, even though voting has started.
4. Still negotiating LOA's even though there's a TA. (Why?)
5. No published payscales associated with TA.
6. Voted to approve a TA that appears inadequate by the pilots.
7. Already admitted that the Reserve section is bad, after above.
8. Hasn't finalized the Bonus method after 5 yrs. (after voting has opened)
9. Favoring a W-2 method for the bonus that is not supported.
10. Skipping picketing events to pickup extra flying/credit.
11. Still no hard copy of the TA available. (after voting has opened)
12. Paying a terminated pilot over 150,000 dollars from union
dues and folding on the greivance. (Hostage?, really..)
13. Roadshows that aren't well orchestrated. (after 5yrs)

These are the items I'm hearing from the line pilots.

Things seem to be a little off base.

It sounds like they don't want you guys to be in the know. I'd be pretty leary
 
Vote NO. You will get to hear about it then. It sounds like your MEC is trying to send you a coded message. Vote NO
 
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1. Two recent Rep recalls.
2. Minimal communication regarding the TA.
3. No Executive Summary, even though voting has started.
4. Still negotiating LOA's even though there's a TA. (Why?)
5. No published payscales associated with TA.
6. Voted to approve a TA that appears inadequate by the pilots.
7. Already admitted that the Reserve section is bad, after above.
8. Hasn't finalized the Bonus method after 5 yrs. (after voting has opened)
9. Favoring a W-2 method for the bonus that is not supported.
10. Skipping picketing events to pickup extra flying/credit.
11. Still no hard copy of the TA available. (after voting has opened)
12. Paying a terminated pilot over 150,000 dollars from union
dues and folding on the greivance. (Hostage?, really..)
13. Roadshows that aren't well orchestrated. (after 5yrs)

These are the items I'm hearing from the line pilots.

Things seem to be a little off base.

They must be taking lessons from the Mesa MEC
 
Vote NO. You will get to hear about it then. It sounds like your MEC is trying to send you a coded message. Vote NO

I am really hoping this is true. On the other hand, I have been concerned that they are so quiet because they are hearing the outrage from the pilot group and are trying to figure out how make us take the poison. Also, they are tight lipped about the signing bonus formula, possibly because they have chosen the LEAST DESIRED FORMULA by the pilot group for there own benefit.

A poll showed that the pilots were aproximately 90% against the formula they want to use, yet they may want to use it anyway for all or half of the bonus..... WTF!
 
Well, you guys could always vote yes..and then find out just how much your senior guys are shoving it up the old fudge shoot!!
 
Are the Pinnacle pilots asking their CNC and MEC those tough questions at the roadshows? If they aren't telling you what you want to hear then vote NO. Pretty simple.
 
Vote NO. You will get to hear about it then. It sounds like your MEC is trying to send you a coded message. Vote NO


I think your right. I believe the MEC wants the pilot group to vote this turd down. They wanted the pilot group to see this piece of crap that is VERY similiar to "The Best, Final Offer" of 4yrs ago. Remember? We didn't get to see that one.

I would say if you own PNCL stock to sell before the 24th.
 

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