So the modern day airline industry doesn't match up to your grandpa's standards... DC-3 speeds can't keep up with a turbojet?
Obviously the comparison was intentionally disregarded but you know what I meant. ALPA of the past in their time is nothing like the politically fueled, backstabbing , money grubbing organization it has become today. Comments rife with sanctimonious, impious and sarcastic rhetoric from those like yourself only push this image deeper and deeper into those coming on board the industry today.
Two things.... Only the President gets a salary, and that salary is determined by the ALPA BOD, which is elected by every ALPA pilot... usually, these elections have a minority particaption rate...of 30% so who do we really need to look at?
The leadership has to ask why participation rates have dropped off the cliff. Really pretty simple in my opinion.
The other three ALPA officers get their airlines pay, basically....and they have taken deep cuts as you know.. including thier pension.
Wow..they still have a pension.
In addition, any expenes that the ALPA national officers incur (or any ALPA volunteer actually) are subject to IRS taxes. So, if I give up a day off and do ALPA work and I expense a lunch meal, then I have to pay tax on that expense as if it was income. Nice IRS...huh...
I’m sure Prater is struggling with that $10,000 a month expense allocation
The problem is people like you focus on misinformation like ALPA national salaries... and you create a negative stigma that is based on false data... how productive is that?
Misinformation? Ignoring public data and minimizing it's effect on the membership makes you part of the problem.
Sorry... nice try... the only thing Prater said was he'd take a pay cut if the BOD mandated it..
Absolutely false. Besides, if any of these guys really wanted to restore some integrity to the union they wouldn’t rely on the crutch and excuse of “the BOD determines my salary”. They certainly could forfeit it on their own. How about donating the excess to PAC? What about Charity?
Who would be doing the political hacking and backstabbing? Your fellow pilots at an LEC meeting?
You really are too far gone to accept the reality of the ALPA backroom network today. If you want o keep your delusions of grandeur I can not help you. All the while ALPA will continue to lose more of the hearts and minds of pilots daily. Again, I point to the failed Skywest organization as an perfect example. Not only in the loss but the stunning defeat for ALPA. It wasn't even close.
Aren't you really saying that this whole self reliance and responsibility for your own airline career is really a bit too troublesome...or that you don't have the energy? The fact is there are some really cool sit coms on TV that you'd rather watch.. or maybe something else?
Now I will have to mention again why there is such low participation nowadays. Read the first paragraph RezO
Nice try again... dump it on the leadership.... that way you won't have to accept responsbility for your career. You won't have to hone your political skill to deal with your political career.
Yes, blame It on the membership again. Do you ever see a pattern here?
Who really wonders if they will be politically effective in thier career while learning how to fly? Who would have known that once you got the job that you have to work to keep it and to make it better.
Who would have known that we would be paying dues to an organization that really does not represent the best interests of the entire membership?
I am not sure if it has sunk into you membership people that it is YOUR career. Quit dumping all the repsonsbility of YOUR career onto volunteers. We are trying to do the best we can but when you don't give a SH*T until it is too late and then complain that we didn't read your minds it gets real old..real quick.
I know what you mean about statements and comments getting old. Do us all a favor and let somebody else do the volunteering with your general attitude. You may do good work but your attitude and placement of blame does far more damage than good by alienating those that cast a weary eye on your actual work.
“Man”? Are you dense?
I am tired of defending the Association to its own members. I get more respect from Congressmen, the FAA and others than I do from my own people.
Yet you still don’t realize why you have to actually do that do you? I think you need to take a good hard look in the mirror. The answer is there it is just you keep choosing to disregard it.
You do. Along with the elected leadership.
The 5% attendance rate at LEC meetings?
The 30% voter participation rate in LEC election?
The 30% participation rate in the AGE 60 survey.
Still can’t figure out why the low participation can you?
Sorry.. but membership involvement is way to weak and low for you to try and attempt to blame the volunteer leadership.
Where did I blame the volunteers? You sound like a lunatic at times with your misnomers and hyperbole replies towards what people write. I think half the time pilots on here just ignore your continuing fulsome writings because the summary of your messages is you have nothing actually legitimate to say.
You mean with family and a full time flight schedule, I volunteer to make this profession better, the mebership does sqaut....and it is..... get this........are you ready...... here it comes...... its.......MY FAULT.... that your career doesn't meet YOUR expectations....
Save the woe be to me speech and continued haranguing as I commend the volunteers. My problem of ALPA today is the structure, political insulation of leadership and like it or not the insulting salaries paid to the brass. However volunteers like yourself, as I said before, do more harm than good with your attitude about participation, blame and fault. Somewhere you have intentionally blurred the lines of many with their feelings today towards ALPA. You always try to turn it into a problem with the membership and attacks on volunteers within the organization.
If you paid your G-pa and Dad for your ALPA education... I suggest you get your money back... and give it to ALPA-PAC...
I would kick you right t in the nutsack for that comment you arrogant little toad however in reality one must consider the source. Besides, I probably wouldn’t hit anything anyway as someone obviously eviscerated it long ago and nothing is left.
