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BoilerUP said:
Can anybody else verify this? Where the falk would they find somebody with that time, DCA? Was it a woman?

Expressjet's 600/100 is super low, but TSA & PDT have taken pilots recently in the 500/50 ballpark from certain college programs. I can't see why ASA wouldn't be able to find better qualified pilots...
I don't know, but I'd assume it's either a FSI or DCI "grad". But I thought that at DCI to get the interview you had to instruct there first?

Either way, it's a pretty tough interview. I heard at one point for every 4 that went in the sim, only 1 was invited back for the next day. With odds like that, no wonder they're exhausting their resume pool. I have no qualms against hiring competent people, so that's great that they're being picky.
 
"You guys that have 2,500-4000 hrs and are still F/O's can have it, I hope that by getting in my time at an early stage I won't be asking your help to get on with ASA, but maybe Southwest instead"

If you go to ASA or comair...won't you still end up a 2500-4000 FO? Isn't the upgrade at these 2 places in the 4 year range if hired today?
 
BRA said:
If you go to ASA or comair...won't you still end up a 2500-4000 FO? Isn't the upgrade at these 2 places in the 4 year range if hired today?
....Yup.
 
This seafeye guy is obviously a disgruntled pilot who thinks that the only way to do it is the way HE did it. I'll bet he is an absolute blast to sit next to in the cockpit!

It sounds to me like you did some very good research, and you landed yourself some good experience for the airline industry. I was once a CFI, it was ok. It's the road that many take. Problem is, if someone else lucks out and finds another or more adventageous route, there will always be a 'seafeye' out there crying foul.

I am right seat in a 737-700 these days. Looking back on my flying past, I can tell you that my flying career REALLY started after flight instructing when I was hired at the regionals. Sitting right seat in a 172 telling someone how to turn left and talk on the radio does not prepare you for that great airline job....plain and simple. What you are doing will. Good luck with your decision.

P.S.- I'm jealous of your 727, it's a plane i've always wanted to fly, but most likely never will.
 
wms said:
A lobotomy. I left a part 135 operator where I was on call 24/7 and had no life thinking I'd have it better here. After 4 years things here are still worse than what I left. I've been on reserve three out of four years and am back on reserve again. Only now am I making the same money that I left. And the quality of life and attitude of mgmt is not what was promised and it's not gonna get better.
I am gonna have to call B.S. on this one. Things may not be great at ASA right now, but it is not that bad. I have been here just under 4 years. I spent one year on reserve and have held a line ever since. If you have been here as long as you say, then you are on reserve by choice.

Things could be better, but they could be a whole lot worse. We are all just trying to be patient and let our negotiators grind it out with management.
 
Dbcooper

Where's the money DB?? Love the name! DB you get me a job on that shiny new 737 you are flying and I promise I will get you a job on the 727, without a doubt!

You at Miami Air??
 
Nope, not Miami Air. However I do have a friend there who just finished class on the 737-800.

You know I can't tell you where I am, people are still looking for me....and the money!!

Cheers.
 
I have to agree with asarjfo. If you are still on reserve after four years you did it to yourself. We have so many complainers here you can't believe. The pilots here complaining about scheduals and reserve for years and such, are the ones who bid for a position they really could not hold. I hear it in the lounge all the time. "I should be able to hold 700 capt next month" when I enquire as to their seniority and it's around 1100 or so I just turn around and laugh. I've benn here about 10 years and am around 200-300 on list. When I ask myself where I would be on the 700 and the answer is 60 or there about and there are only 59 lines it's a pretty good bet that My qol will suffer if I go over to the position.

There are reasons why more senior pilot didn't bid into a position and the guys in the 900 seniority got those positions. As we get more 700's and the lines increase I will take my position in front of you on the list and my qol will go up and yours will go down again and again.

Bid what you can hold and be sure you want what you bid. If you did it to yourself don't complain about your crappy life to everybody.
 

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