What do you think will happen to ASA?

[goahead]

Even if we get 100% "scope" it's only as good as the paper its written on.... Not worth it

 

[79%N1]

Ok, so then why hold up negotiations further trying to get it?

 

[~~~^~~~]

That is rediculous. If scope is only worth the paper it is written on, then pay rates, quality of life, insurance, bidding, scheduling and the rest of the contract are worth the same amount, or less. Remember without scope there is nothing binding the Company to the pilots covered by the contract.

The only thing that gives a contract any ability to bind the Company is that glue called scope.

 

[Flyer1015]

CHQ and Eagle make more than us on average, hell a 7yr CA on the 50 seater makes five dollars more an hour than us at both places

Hate to break it to ya, but there are NO 7 yr Eagle jet captains.

I believe the most junior Eagle jet captain is an early '99 DOH.

 

[goahead]

Hate to break it to ya, but there are NO 7 yr Eagle jet captains.

I believe the most junior Eagle jet captain is an early '99 DOH.

Well you know what I mean.....

 

[blueridge71]

Can anyone indicate anything that is positive about ASA's future?

I personally am beginning to think there is a plan to really shrink ASA. They are stalling big time.

I realized this a year ago and voted with my feet by going to the fractionals. There is no job security for anybody in the regional airlines.

 

[blueridge71]

Even if we get 100% "scope" it's only as good as the paper its written on.... Not worth it

You are right. How do you scope flying that you don't own in the first place? About all you can do is scope ASA's DAL assigned flying to prevent a Freedom or GoJets type startup. On the other hand, with ASA's current contract, there is no need for a nonunion startup.

 

[Tomct]

I agree that this needs to get done, but the 2 million dollars they offered was a slap in the face to every pilot here at ASA. It should p!ss you off at how little they value us. Just imagine what would happen around here is we all stopped doing more than our job...(which I don't do anymore). It is irritating that they keep trying to pin this on the pilot group...when in fact if mgmnt would just get this done the company would be saving a TON of money in lawyer fee's alone! Oh Well! Screw Em!:uzi:

 

[VeeOne]

You are right. How do you scope flying that you don't own in the first place? About all you can do is scope ASA's DAL assigned flying to prevent a Freedom or GoJets type startup. On the other hand, with ASA's current contract, there is no need for a nonunion startup.

The scope we are seeking isn't with Delta. It's within SkyWest Inc. in order to keep SkyWest from transferring ASA assetts to SkyWest and hiring off the street to fill the void. We are looking to make SkyWest accountable for ALL of their imployees- for both airlines to prevent our replacement.

 

[MELIT]

When are you going to wake up? Your not going to get scope. Retro, forget about it. You won't be around in five years. Face the fact folks. Hell, ALPO doesn't even give a $hit about you. You have dicked the dog to long. Let me be the first to say it, bye bye.

 

[79%N1]

MELIT...

Deleted............You are not worth it.

 

[viper01]

Melit,
Don't you work for that very company/pilot group you bad mouth so much.

 

[buscap]

When are you idiots going to get it????!!!

Scope will do us no good.

Onelist is the solution.

 

[scarlet]

ONE LIST -has to start within the pilot group...go get a post office box, and 1600 letters for people to read and sign

ONE LIST=DOH

 

[CFI2766]

ONE LIST -has to start within the pilot group...go get a post office box, and 1600 letters for people to read and sign

ONE LIST=DOH

I AGREE. The best thing for the ASA pilot group would be to drop the retro demands to something attainable (not 100%), stay with the current SKYW rates, and demand one list based on DOH. The scope issues will go away.