What did SAPA do about this?!

[UncleRico]

Oh yeah and conference calls are the usual meeting for them. So it was hard to actually be present at a meeting.

 

[UncleRico]

I am for a union just not ALPA. They have one interest: MONEY!

 

[Nevets]

You kind of got screwed then, because I got reimbursed for mine. I believe it's the newhires that are coming in after the fact have to provide the passport and FCC prior to interview. Good try though

So its okay to throw the new hires overboard since you got yours? What is next? A B-scale. Oh wait, the Brasilia pilots were already thrown overboard with their defacto B scale.

 

[Nevets]

Oh yeah and conference calls are the usual meeting for them. So it was hard to actually be present at a meeting.

That's because conference calls save money. You could have asked for the number.

 

[Nevets]

I am for a union just not ALPA. They have one interest: MONEY!

What money? The ONLY pilot who is on the ALPA payroll it the president of the union.

By thew way, IPA, SWAPA, NPA, and even APA all pay for ALPA services.

 

[UncleRico]

Did you hear about the uproar that ALPA had from within about two years ago. The ALPA national employees (secretaries, lobbyists, etc.) get paid. ALPA is just as big of a business as the airline you work for today.

 

[Nevets]

Did you hear about the uproar that ALPA had from within about two years ago. The ALPA national employees (secretaries, lobbyists, etc.) get paid. ALPA is just as big of a business as the airline you work for today.

Of course ALPA has staffers, attorneys, lobbyists. Do you think they would work for free? I'm saying that the ONLY PILOT on ALPA payroll is the president. Also, its the Executive Council that sets pay rates for ALL ALPA staff including the president.

 

[UncleRico]

Pilot or not it takes money to run that business. Unfortunately I don't feel that they have my best interest nor yours at hand.

 

[Nevets]

Pilot or not it takes money to run that business. Unfortunately I don't feel that they have my best interest nor yours at hand.

It takes money to run the business you work for also. Do you think the management has more of an interest in the pilots than ALPA?

 

[UncleRico]

In a corporate run world I think they both have about the same amount of interest in us.

 

[Nevets]

In a corporate run world I think they both have about the same amount of interest in us.

In a corporate run world, labor is just an expense item.

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They even compare you to percent of revenue.

Edit: It didn't cut and past well but here is the link.
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx?dcn=0001104659-07-060228&Type=HTML

 

[UncleRico]

I am sure if ALPA was required to file with the SEC they would compare us to a percent of revenue. It is nice to know that OO shows where the money goes. ALPA on the other hand has not shown its pilots where their dues go. I am pretty sure most members would be pissed knowing where their hard earned 2% ends up.

 

[Nevets]

I am sure if ALPA was required to file with the SEC they would compare us to a percent of revenue. It is nice to know that OO shows where the money goes. ALPA on the other hand has not shown its pilots where their dues go. I am pretty sure most members would be pissed knowing where their hard earned 2% ends up.

I guess yo haven't hear of the Labor-Management Reporting and Disclosure Act of 1959. You can find out all about ALPA on the Department of Labor web page. And you can read the law on the skywestalpa.org web page because ALPA is not trying to hide anything.
http://www.skywestalpa.org/documents/lmrda.pdf

And for those who want to know how the 1.95% of your dues are appriated (I've already posted here before but I'll post it again), here is the link. It is on the skywestalpa.org web page. Again, ALPA is NOT trying to hide anything. Otherwise they wouldn't make it convinient for you to find these documents on their web page.
http://www.skywestalpa.org/documents/Dues.Dollar.Allocation.pdf


As for Skywest showing were the money goes, they only do it because they are publicly held company. If they were privately owned, I'm 100% sure they wouldn't because they would not be required. AND the SEC does NOT require companies them to compare their labor costs to revenue (its simple math that any analysts can do if they really wanted to know). They do it to show off.

 

[Hawkeyeguy]

Please all of you out there, take a minute and call the Skywest pilots you know and encourage them to vote.

Thank you for your support!

 

[jea]

So its okay to throw the new hires overboard since you got yours? What is next? A B-scale. Oh wait, the Brasilia pilots were already thrown overboard with their defacto B scale.

He is a brasilia pilot....
and I do remember the whole reimbursement thing... I didnt care because i had mine already and I use it for personal travel